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It appears we will get stuck with Dem in the whitehouse and they are still bitching.
White men hold superdelegate power balance
By: Josephine Hearn
Feb 15, 2008 06:05 AM EST
Regarding the current method of selecting superdelegates, Rep. John Larson (D-Conn.), an Obama supporter, said: 'Obviously it’s an imperfect system. It smacks a lot of the old state legislatures electing senators.'
White men hold superdelegate power balance
By: Josephine Hearn
Feb 15, 2008 06:05 AM EST
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In an ironic twist to the historic Democratic nominating contest between an African American and a woman, the balance of power may be held by a more familiar face: the white male.
According to a Politico analysis, close to half of the 700-plus Democratic superdelegates who could end up determining the party nominee are white men.
One Obama superdelegate, a House member, had sharp criticism for the superdelegate racial and gender make-up, a reaction that reflects the sensitivities surrounding the issue.
“It’s still the old guard, the white men. They always want to control the outcome,” the superdelegate said. “But this time, they won’t be able to do it.”
That strong response could portend a messy intra-party fight in the event that superdelegates cast the decisive votes for the nominee.
The exact percentage of white males varies slightly depending on whether the penalized Michigan and Florida delegation superdelegates are counted, but the overall percentage is at least 46 percent. Overall, men of all races represent 64 percent of the party’s superdelegates.
Unlike traditional pledged delegates, superdelegates are unbound by the outcome of any primary vote or caucus. They are allowed to make their own choice for the nomination, and this year, the campaigns of Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton are aggressively courting their support in the event that superdelegate votes are needed to determine which candidate wins the nomination.
Representing about 20 percent of all delegates to the Democratic National Convention, the superdelegate roster is composed of members of Congress, other elected officeholders and party officials.
The percentage of white male superdelegates is disproportionate to the share of white males who make up the overall Democratic electorate. According to a January 2008 national poll by Zogby International, 28 percent of Democratic voters are white men. Women account for 55 percent of Democratic voters.
But superdelegates have never reflected the diversity of the Democratic party as a whole, nor were they designed to. They represent the party insiders, a group in which white men still dominate.
Among the superdelegates, including Michigan and Florida, there are 28 governors (21 white men), 49 senators (33 white men) and 228 representatives (137 white men). Members of the Democratic National Committee are also superdelegates, and among this group, there is more diversity.
Many superdelegates were not surprised that there were so many white males in their ranks.
“Obviously it’s an imperfect system. It smacks a lot of the old state legislatures electing senators,” said Rep. John Larson (D-Conn.), an Obama supporter. “I do think you’ll see some kind of reform after this to make it binding with the majority of votes.”
Rep. Louise Slaughter (D-N.Y.), a Clinton backer, noted that delegates were much more diverse than they were in 1972 when she first became a delegate under party rules that specifically required more participation by women.
“I remember how excited we were to stop stuffing envelopes and go to the convention,” she recalled. “I’m not surprised that there are still a lot of men. It’s just staying power. We still have a ways to go.”
Rep. Hilda Solis (D-Calif.), also a Clinton supporter, said she was more concerned about the decisions of the superdelegates than their gender and racial identities.
“Women and minorities often have a diminished presence,” she said. “But what really matters to me is who they’re lining up with.”
Among the more than 700 superdelegates named by the Democratic National Committee, Clinton leads Obama by 231 to 140.5 (the eight members of Democrats Abroad receive a half vote.). Among white men, at least 81 were supporting Clinton and at least 63 were backing Obama. Many more remain uncommitted.
Stacie Paxton, a DNC spokeswoman, said that DNC members represent the party’s rich diversity and include African Americans, Hispanic Americans, Asian Americans, Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender Americans and Native Americans.
"Superdelegates are a diverse group of people from all parts of the country and all walks of life," said Paxton.
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last time here
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aw jees!! not again........race race race race race.......  |
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Fri Feb 15, 2008 9:43 am |
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Dave Starr
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Like Hillary? You're a racist.
Like Obama? You're a sexist.
Like McCain? You're an angry white man.
Will it ever end???
In our own way, we're becoming a nation of Sunnis & Shiites.
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Pushing buttons sure can be fun.
When a lion wants to go somewhere, he doesn’t worry about how many hyenas are in the way.
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[quote]I'm with LT; I want the best person for the job, and that's all that matters[/quoteWe sure have a sorry lot to choose from this time.  |
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"If you like your current healthcare you can keep it, Period"!!
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Fri Feb 15, 2008 10:13 am |
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Dave Starr
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| I really wish None Of The Above was on the ballot this year. |
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I used to care, but I take a pill for that now.
Pushing buttons sure can be fun.
When a lion wants to go somewhere, he doesn’t worry about how many hyenas are in the way.
Paddle faster, I hear banjos. |
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Fri Feb 15, 2008 10:50 am |
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| I'm not real happy with our chioces either but I'll go with the lessor of the 3 evils. I really wish Fred Thompson wouldn't have bowed out. |
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Fri Feb 15, 2008 12:18 pm |
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Dave Starr
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| It's pretty sad when our choices are who will do the least damage instead of who will be the best candidate. |
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I used to care, but I take a pill for that now.
Pushing buttons sure can be fun.
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Paddle faster, I hear banjos. |
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