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00SL2
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Why is it Hillary Clinton is present for the Florida Democratic primary but didn't grace Michigan for ours, even though she left her name on our primary ballot?
Barack Obama said he pledged to the Democratic National Committee not to campaign in those states holding early primaries against the DNC rules and that is also why his name was not on our primary ballot.
I see Obama being a man of his word, honoring a commitment to the rules. I am not so sure about Hillary. |
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Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:24 pm |
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hillary's going for the votes by whatever means necessary.
she's a calculating cookie.....and women like her...   |
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Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:27 pm |
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Dave Starr
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| She realized that she might need the delegates, so she's now pushing to have the Michigan and Florida delegates seated at the convention. Really a woman of her word, isn't she? |
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Wed Jan 30, 2008 8:45 am |
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FlintConservative
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Ya don't suppose it had anything to do with the fact that she was the only contender on the ballot in Michigan? She was going to win Michigan irrespective of whether she graced us with her presence...that wasn't the case in Florida.
Hey LT...is that Bean? |
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Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:25 pm |
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yup 2tap...my boy butterbean!!!  |
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Wed Jan 30, 2008 4:49 pm |
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twotap
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| Lt how could ya mix up a cat about to be nutted with Cartman. |
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Wed Jan 30, 2008 7:47 pm |
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Adam
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quote:
00SL2 schreef:
Why is it Hillary Clinton is present for the Florida Democratic primary but didn't grace Michigan for ours, even though she left her name on our primary ballot?
Barack Obama said he pledged to the Democratic National Committee not to campaign in those states holding early primaries against the DNC rules and that is also why his name was not on our primary ballot.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/29/AR2008012902998.html?hpid=topnews
She takes after her husband. People didn't call him slick Willie ('I did not have "sexual" "relations" with "that woman" ') for nothing.
The real genius of it is she got Obama and Edwards to go off the ballot in Michigan so she could win and now she is trying to get the delgates that she was not supposed to win.
Now with Edwards out of the way I don't see how she will have any trouble dealing with Obama. |
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Wed Jan 30, 2008 8:49 pm |
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00SL2
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Adam schreef:
Now with Edwards out of the way I don't see how she will have any trouble dealing with Obama.
I think she will because her temper's going to get the best of her. Not only that, I think Bill Clinton is going to be a continuing problem in the campaign until November--worse, if they make it to the White House.
Thanks for the Washington Post reference. I hope the DNC sticks to its ruling about Michigan and Florida primaries. |
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Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:23 pm |
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Dave Starr
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| I've got a hunch that Hilly will be the nominee no matter how the primary voting turns out. Her & Slick will stop at nothing to get back in the White House. |
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I used to care, but I take a pill for that now.
Pushing buttons sure can be fun.
When a lion wants to go somewhere, he doesn’t worry about how many hyenas are in the way.
Paddle faster, I hear banjos. |
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Thu Jan 31, 2008 8:06 am |
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twotap
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By Emmett Tyrrell
Thursday, January 31, 2008
WASHINGTON -- In the acrid aftermath of the South Carolina primary, I think it is safe to say that novelist Toni Morrison was dealing in fiction when she pronounced Bill Clinton our first black president. After watching him huff and puff up the issue of race in a way that Americans have not seen since the presidential campaigns of the late George Wallace, the former Boy President, rather than being our first black president, is our second redneck president.
I say Clinton is our second redneck president because first came Jimmy Carter. Jimmy did not play the role of the bigot while in the White House, not exactly. Rather, as the historian Betty Glad demonstrated in her fine biography of him, "Jimmy Carter: In Search of the Great White House," Jimmy played the racial politics at the beginning of his political career, in Georgia while seeking the governorship. That is not to say that as president he did not use race divisively. He frequently was given to transforming policy disagreements into a matter of white voters repressing black voters, that is to say Republicans repressing blacks. He was forever presuming himself to be the champion of black people and Republicans to be anti-black. Any disagreement on domestic issues he was apt to present as part of a Republican "Southern strategy" to win Southern white votes.
Now, after the Clintons' treacherous campaign against Sen. Barack Obama, we see that some Democrats will practice a Southern strategy, too. Yet they do it within their own party, dividing Democrats along racial and even ethnic lines. This is the repellent absurdity to which identity politics has sunk. Why two Southern politicians would play the racial politics -- each in his different way -- is mystifying. Southern politicians, more than any other politicians in this country, should be aware of the racial antagonisms of the past and the potential for racial violence even today. It is especially mystifying to see Clinton play the race card. I do not credit him with many virtues, but the one virtue I thought he had was racial tolerance. Nowhere on his record is there any evidence that he ever sought to benefit from bigotry against blacks. That is no longer the case.
To be sure, as president, he treated race the way President Carter did, interpreting policy differences between him and his Republican opponents as inspired by the Republicans' presumed racism. Now, after his repeated acts of treachery in South Carolina, we see a Bill actively turning whites and blacks in his own party against each other. Moreover, he wants to encourage ill will between Hispanics and blacks within his party. He is making these invidious efforts purely to bring his family back to power. Though I have called him a sociopath, I thought that when it came to the issue of race, he might be more scrupulous.
Race is the cruel burden this country has borne since its inception. We fought a bloody civil war over it. The evil of Jim Crow followed after that war, featuring widespread injustices against blacks and violence between the races. From North to South, race riots have broken out in this country for generations. After the heroism and idealism of the civil rights movement, the country has moved steadily toward racial tolerance and an improvement of the material condition of all minorities. Admittedly, there remain instances of unspeakable cruelty, hate crimes committed by brutes on both sides. Yet with a growing sense of tolerance and a growing economy offering jobs and other opportunities, we have reason to believe that racial harmony is replacing the racial strife of the past.
Now comes the Clinton quest for the Democratic nomination, and what journalists politely call "the race card" is being practiced. It is a dangerous game. Thankfully, racial tolerance is probably too far along for the Clintons to screw it up. The divide between the races will continue to narrow. But perhaps you will understand my astonishment after the Clintons' demagoguery in South Carolina: They are actually worse than I have been saying.
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Thu Jan 31, 2008 8:55 am |
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| what a damning picture!! |
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Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:03 am |
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Dave Starr
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| Is that the dry cleaning bill for Monica's dress? |
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I used to care, but I take a pill for that now.
Pushing buttons sure can be fun.
When a lion wants to go somewhere, he doesn’t worry about how many hyenas are in the way.
Paddle faster, I hear banjos. |
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Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:58 am |
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if she wins, look out !!!!!  |
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Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:44 pm |
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twotap
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if she wins, look out !!!!!
Wait a minute, free healthcare, no more war, tax the rich, gay marraige, unlimited abortion rights, Willy flys around the world as Americas Ambassador of PIECE, or is it peace:lol: , put the screws to them damn gunnuts, And "Change" everybody wants change, what more could we ask for. |
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"If you like your current healthcare you can keep it, Period"!!
Barack Hussein Obama--- multiple times. |
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Thu Jan 31, 2008 8:24 pm |
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FlintConservative
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| Unfortunately her definition of "rich" will include many working class folks. |
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