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untanglingwebs
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The Brown administration has no one in the Flint Police Department that is willing to step up to the plate and create a plan to deal with the violence in Flint.
I got many calls after Channel 12 aired that ridiculous piece on the Ceasefire Program. Angie Hendershott should have left that enthusiastic grin at home as no one in the streets is buying that story. There are more so called "program helpers" than participants.
Lock left the Flint Police Department after his provisional Captain position was lost when he basically failed the oral exams for Captain. Petrich and other officers stormed City Council to have him made Chief because he was black and not because he had the credentials. Flint lost many trained and qualified leaders when Lock became Chief and concern over possible pension changes surfaced.
At previous meetings Brown has said thaat he was meeting with the State Police and other law enforcement and they were waiting for him to create a plan. After 90 days and no glimmer of a plan, it isn't going to happen. And if Lock were to come up with a plan now it would be suspect.
Governor Snyder isn't any better. Flint was to be among four cities that are priorities because of the high level of violence. Now only silence. I do applaud the measure to train up to 400 military veterans as State Police. That is a good start but more is needed. |
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Sat Mar 03, 2012 10:17 am |
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FLINT HAS ELIMINATED THE PSO'S (POLICE SERVICE OFFICERS) AND THE BLIGHT AND CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS WHO PREVIOUSLY TOOK CARE OF THESE SERVICE CALLS. THEY MADE LESS MONEY AND FLINT DID NOT HAVE TO SACRIFICE A TRAINED OFFICER TO PERFORM THESE TASKS. IS THIS HOW LOCK AND COUNCIL BELIEVE A POLICE FORCE SHOULD BE RUN?
Flint police policy gives preferential treatment to elected officials, administrators
Published: Saturday, March 03, 2012, 8:00 AM
By David Harris | dharris5@mlive.com
(Flint Journal files)
FLINT, Michigan --
Need a cop in Flint? No problem if you are a city official.
Everyone else, however, has to wait their turn.
Police response time is a long-standing issue in Flint, highlighted in recent years as crime soared -- making the city one the the nation's most dangerous -- and the police force cut.
A "fast-track" complaint system that allows city officials to get quicker response than ordinary citizens is having a negative effect on the Flint Police Department, according to a team of researchers.
The system -- known as service requests -- is used primarily by city administrators, council members and police administrators and is separate from the 911 dispatch center, according to the study by a team from Michigan State University
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"The service request system could be interpreted as a fast-track for city officials to move the concerns ahead of requests of ordinary citizens, inadvertently promoting a 'class system,' " the report says. "When citizens realize that results can occur faster by calling a city official instead of using the designated dispatching procedure, the agency begins to erode its authority and diminish its efficiency."
These calls were mostly for abandoned vehicles and parking problems, the report stated, and came into the department via email or phone. The request is then given to a sergeant who hands it off to an officer to investigate.
But those who use the system say they are using it for the betterment of their constituents.
City Council President Scott Kincaid said he uses the system when a resident calls him about a problem that hasn't been taken care of by police.
"As an elected official, it's our responsibility that if a constituent calls (about a problem) to let that department know," Kincaid said. "I see it as a way of getting things done."
Resident Chris Watson said he's turned to his councilman in the past when he couldn't get a response from police about his son's stolen bike. But he isn't so sure police can afford to give official requests priority under the current stress the city is in.
"That's a double edged sword," said Watson, 49. "I can see where it's kind of circumventing the system... The system is broken."
Chief Alvern Lock acknowledged the existence of the service request option but said officers treat all calls equally and that city officials don't get preference in the calls.
Lock labeled the requests an internal system and declined comment on whether there are any plans to follow the study's recommendation to end the program.
Councilman Sheldon Neeley said the system is another avenue to handle citizen complaints.
"If a resident cannot get the amount of service that they need from an entity of the city, (the complaint) usually goes to the elected official. The elected official has the duty to respond to their citizen."
Wayne Newcomb, 37, said he sees no problem with the system, especially when it comes to blight.
"It cuts down on blight," he said. "There is enough things going on."
Roosevelt Talley, 64, said anytime someone calls police, they should respond. But if they don't, it is good to have an alternative method to get things done, he said.
"If it's not responded to, somebody should step up and take care of it," he said.
The MSU report says the system puts a patrol officer in a "no-win situation" because they are responding to the 911 calls as well as the service requests, making it difficult to prioritize calls.
The study maintains the service request system was in "direct competition" with the 911 dispatch calls.
An analysis of service requests from 2007-09 showed 50 percent of the service requests were for abandoned vehicles and parking problems, the report said.
Police union leaders say they see no problem with the service.
Officers union president Terry Neeley said he thinks about 70 percent of the service requests don't get answered anyway because of the high volume of 911 calls and lack of staffing.
"I don't think there's an advantage for elected officials," he said. "You would want contact between council people and police administration."
The team from MSU spent 11 months starting in March 2010 studying the police department, interviewing staff and collecting data. The 107-page report was was funded by a grant from the C.S. Mott Foundation. |
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Michigan State researchers find Flint Police Department to be ineffecient, understaffed
Published: Sunday, February 19, 2012, 7:00 AM Updated: Sunday, February 19, 2012, 8:46 AM
By David Harris | dharris5@mlive.com
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FLINT, Michigan -- A nearly year-long study of the Flint Police Department by a team of Michigan State researchers determined the city's police department was woefully understaffed, inefficient and did not do the type of policing proven to reduce crime.
The report criticizes everyone from city administration to police management and unions, saying the department's last 25 years have "not been one of prosperity and progress," and blaming the problems on high turnover rate in upper and middle level administration.
Among the other findings: Staffing at the city's 911 center is below optimal levels and
the ratio of violent crime to detectives is twice as high as other comparable cities.
A team from Michigan State University spent 11 months starting in March 2010 studying the police department, interviewing staff and collecting data. The 107-page report was was funded by a grant from the C.S. Mott Foundation.
Nearly a year after the report was submitted, city and police union leaders say key suggestions to make the police department more efficient and improve community service have yet to be implemented.
The staffing levels in the patrol bureau and 911 center remain low, which the study called "critical threats to the agency." There are currently about 125 sworn police officers in the department, which is about the same as when the study was being conducted.
Only "a token amount of time" was devoted to community policing, which is key to fighting crime, the study says.
Officers devoted 2.5 minutes per hour doing community policing, the study said. The other time was spent reacting to calls.
The same remains true today, said Flint Police Officers Union President Terry Neeley.
"It's totally reactionary instead of proactive," said Neeley.
Flint police Chief Alvern Lock could not be reached for comment.
When Neeley was hired on the department in 1991, community policing was a common theme. Officers were assigned to the same area to cover and would attend block meetings and be familiar with the known criminals and good-doers, Neeley said.
"You knew who the players were and who was doing what," said Neeley. "It made a big difference because you could basically prevent from things happening because you knew what was happening. (Leaders) would come to you before problems would grow out of hand."
The city's police unions do not go unscathed in the report, which says unions did little to accommodate the administration in completing the layoffs, which were inevitable considering the budgetary crises in the city.
The report calls the relationship between the union and city "difficult at best."
"For the good of the employees, the unions have been a good protective measure to ensure that workers rights have not been violated by the city," the report says. "However, uncertainty exists whether union leaders fully appreciate the full extent of the budgetary crises that has come upon Flint over the last decade and the difficulties that are currently facing the city and department."
Neeley, who was elected union president two weeks ago but has held a board position for several years, said the union has always negotiated in good faith. He accused the city of mismanaging funds, citing the state financial team's report that recommended a state financial manager.
The two sides have not talked since June, Neeley said. They are awaiting a meeting with Emergency Financial Manager Michael Brown, he said.
Mayor Dayne Walling said the police union's unwillingness to change items in their contract, such as switching from 8-hour to 12-hour shifts, make it difficult to implement some of the suggested enhancements.
A 12-hour shift, according to the report, is more efficient than a 8-hour shift because the same amount of administrative time such as roll call is used, but more time is devoted toward patrol.
"There are a number of reforms that have to be made in police department, starting with the 12-hour shift schedule, and historically the three police unions were not willing to agree to a shift schedule change," said Walling.
Another inefficiency the report pointing out was something as simple as fingerprinting a suspect. The report said an officer would wait as long as an hour for an identification technician to fingerprint the suspect.
"When asked why the practice has not been abolished in favor of patrol officers fingerprinting their own custodies, we were advised that it would lead to a union grievance for violation of job classification," the report said.
One of the suggestions the study made that has been implemented is telephone police reporting.
The telephone program "Smart Response System," which was implemented last fall, allows residents with minor crimes to call in and receive a complaint number instead of waiting for a patrol vehicle.
The report also is critical of the geographic deployment of the officers, which calls for "immediate change." The deployment is determined by city ward, and should be by where crime is heaviest.
The study calls the staffing at the 911 center "far below the optimal level." It suggests merging with the county and city 911 centers. The move has been long talked about, but never followed through with. A merge would provide "better services" for the community, the report said.
Detectives have a "significantly high caseload," the report said. There are 15 detectives in the department, according to the sergeants union. The ratio of violent crimes to detectives is 118:1, twice as high as any comparable city, the report said .
"There is clear evidence, based on the ratio of (violent crimes) to detectives, that more detectives in the (criminal investigative bureau) to handle the volume of crime existing in the City of Flint would be beneficial."
Suggestions to relieve some of the detectives are to empower officers to do things such as closing cases that have no way of being solved.
Management
The report is critical of the department's management, which could be blamed, in part, because of high turnover rate at the top.
One of the things missing was a clear set of "organizational goals" that are obtainable and measurable. Another issue was the policy and procedure manual is long out of date. The department should "start from scratch" and create a new policy manual, the study suggests.
It also needs to hold employees more accountable, and needs to complete a review of positions and lines of authority.
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Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:12 am
untanglingwebs
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FOR MOST THIS REPORT IS WHAT EVERYONE ALREADY KNEW AND HAVE KNOWN FOR YEARS.
THE 12 HR SHIFT IS NOT ALWAYS THE BEST AND WAS TRIED IN FLINT AND CHANGED BACK. THIS WAS A TOPIC OF FLINT TALK DISCUSSION OVER A YEAR AGO.
WALLING SHOULD HAVE NOT BEEN ALLOWED TO COMMENT AS IT WAS HIS ADMINISTRATION USING POPLAR AND EASON THAT CREATED A HOSTILE ENVIRONMENT IN THE UNION NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. THEY NEVER BARGAINED IN GOOD FAITH, SO THE MSU STUDY, ASSISTED BY OFFICER TANYA MEEKS, DID NOT QUITE GET IT RIGHT.
WHEN THE CITY HAS RECORD NUMBERS OF HOMICIDES AND VIOLENT EPISODES, HOW MUCH TIME IS THERE FOR COMMUNITY POLICING?
UNDER THE WALLING AND EMERGENCY MANAGER, MOST OF THE TOP ADMINISTRATION LEFT THROUGH RETIREMENT AND THIS LEFT A SERIOUS BRAIN DRAIN. CONTRACTUAL PENSION ISSUES WAS THE MAIN CONTRIBUTOR TO THE RETIREMENTS AS WELL AS A CHANCE TO BUY 3 YEARS OF RETIREMENT. THE EM HAD TO KEEP MARC ANGUS UNDER CONTRACT AS HE WAS ONE OF THE BEST HOMICIDE DETECTIVES THIS CIY HAD.
THE SO CALLED BLIGHT OFFICERS ARE EVEN CALLED OFF WHEN THERE ARE PRIORITY ONE CALLS. AND THAT ALSO APPLIES TO TASK FORCES AND THE OFFICERS WHO HAVE THEIR SALARIES PAID FOR BY HURLEY AND KETTERING.
THE REPORT IS PARTIALLY WRONG AS EFFICIENT CRIME FIGHTING TECHNIQUES WERE UTILIZED IN THE PAST AND THEY WORKED. THE CURRENT ADMINISTRATION DOES NOT KNOW HOW TO EMPLOY THEM AND THOSE WHO USED THEM IN THE PAST HAVE LEFT.
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Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:24 am
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SOME COMMENTS FROM M-LIVE:
intheknow767 February 19, 2012 at 8:24AM
Ya think?
DWCBOB February 19, 2012 at 8:28AM
In other news, water is wet, the sky is blue, and grass is green.
bezarina February 19, 2012 at 8:36AM
Amazing it took Michigan State a year to come up with what we the people have known for a very long time!!!!! How much did that cost us tax payers for that??? Police officers, firefighters, good teachers, nurses, Emt and ambulance drivers should be making good money and benefits they are important to our society, but instead we pay the movie star or athlete and never bat an eye at their wages.
rabbidfoot February 19, 2012 at 9:17AM
@bezarina . . . . The study was paid for by the Mott Foundation.
Inefficient? You think. We expect them to do a job that calls for at least 500 officers, but don't give them any support and all the city wants to do is take, take, take! The Unions must stand their ground somewhere. Did the report include mutual assistance from outside agencies like the State Troopers, Deputies, Flint Twp., Burton, etc. ?
FPD is doing the best they can with what they have. It's been time for the citizens to step up. As long as nobody cares, what else can they do?
intheknow767 February 19, 2012 at 9:26AM
If you read the article and then the study, you'll find it is saying that they are inefficient because they are understaffed. However, they are not doing the best job they can mostly because of low morale and apathy, which is understandable. Sort of like being on a sinking ship. It's hard to be enthusiastic. The old "union" nonsense is what, in part, leading to their disbandment. See any GM plants around? And, those that are, do their employees a ridiculous hourly wage? Of course not.
The Flint Police Department will not exist 2 years from now. Why do you think their top detectives abruptly took a locked in retirement and bailed? They were around for years and were smart enough, and in the know enough, to see that coming. Goodbye FPD.
trla2682 February 19, 2012 at 9:19AM
Now that they have the data, what is going to be done, and when? When is this meeting with the Emergency Financial Manager? It appears that time is being wasted in trying to save Flint.
godraw February 19, 2012 at 9:33AM
Now that they have the data, what is going to be done, and when?
"A team from Michigan State University spent 11 months starting in March 2010 studying the police department, .......
Um, that would imply the report was finished and presented sometime in Jan/Feb/Mar of 2011.
Or, the parties received it roughly a year ago.
shanedr February 19, 2012 at 9:29AM
It's been obvious for years that the Flint Police Department needs to be re-organized from top to bottom. But trying to convince anyone at city hall that is an exercise in futility.
B17Bomber February 19, 2012 at 9:32AM
nothing is going to be done, there is no money to re-hire more police officer's because the tax base of that funky armpit city.
kemcha February 19, 2012 at 9:34AM
Really? They needed study to determine that the Flint Police Department is understaffed? They wasted taxpayer money for a study that every City of Flint resident already knew? This is a joke.
Mayor Dayne Walling was responsible for downsizing our police department as well as the fire department. So, what happened as a result? Crime increases in an out of control state, murders skyrocket, placing the City of Flint at the top of the crime statistics list and arsons grow out of control.
The only person who should be blamed for this is Mayor Walling. He put our city at risk and placed the residents of our city in harm's way. The man should be prosecuted.
offdahook February 19, 2012 at 9:35AM
The state of law enforcement in the City of Flint is not unique just to Flint. In an attempt to right many cultural injustices, Flint like many other cities, threw out the baby with the bath water, and became more concerned with being politically correct than providing a professional delivery of all city services. What was an attempt to bring a balance of cultures into government became a corruption of cronyism, nepotism and greed that systematically destroyed any chance of finding that balance of cultures and professional leadership that Flint so badly needed and that higher courts intended. Even today after so many documented injustices that have cost Flint taxpayers millions, Flint still struggles to find that balance. Until it does, Flint will never be in control of it’s own future.
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Sat Mar 03, 2012 10:28 am |
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untanglingwebs
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Senate Democratic Policy Committee Hearing “An Oversight - DPCSenate Democratic Policy Committee Hearing. “An Oversight Hearing on Reduced Federal Funding For Law. Enforcement and the Rise in Violent Crime” ...http://dpc.senate.gov/hearings/hearing34/bios.pdf - - Cached - Similar pages
Senate Democratic Policy Committee Hearing “An Oversight - DPCJul 10, 2006 ... “An Oversight Hearing on Reduced Federal Funding For. Law Enforcement and the Rise in Violent Crime”.
Gary Hagler. Chief of Police
, Flint, ...http://dpc.senate.gov/hearings/hearing34/hagler.pdf - - Cached - Similar pages |
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Sat Mar 03, 2012 10:31 am |
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In July 2006, Hagler was one of a few selected to speak on behalf of a request for more federal funding for police officers. Among his data:
In 1999 Flint had 338 sworn police officers
When the deficit hit in 2001-2002, there was a 30 % decrease in the number of sworn police officers, with 237 remaining.
Police could spent less time on the streets as the decrease in clerical support required they perform more clerical duties.
1996 to 2001 there were 17 to 34 federally funded officers; in 2002 there were 12; and with the end of 2006 there would be none.
The Crime Area Target Team (CATT) was a select group of 18 officers and 3 supervisors. They were simultaneously a problem oriented policeing team, a crime prevention team, a community organizing team and a juvenile crime suppression team.
Their mission was to assist neighborhoods in reducing conditions that create crime and disorder in a substantial and permanent manner.
Between January 2005 and May 2006:
The CATT team had 3051 felony arrests
$208,371 in the recovered illegal narcotics
had seized $173,953 in cash forfeitures
recovered 210 illegal firearms |
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Sat Mar 03, 2012 10:57 am |
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Michigan Gov. Rick Snyder spokesman: Mobile cop team could be 'part of that mix' for addressing Genesee County crime
Published: Thursday, March 01, 2012, 1:00 PM
By Ron Fonger | RFONGER1@mlive.com
GENESEE COUNTY, Michigan -- A spokesman for Gov. Rick Snyder says a proposal to create a mobile police response team is part of the discussion about further state efforts to fight crime here.
"We’ve had great input from local law enforcement partners in Genesee County and other communities, and the sheriff’s proposal is a part of that mix," Snyder's Deputy Press Secretary Ken Silfven said in an e-mail to The Flint Journal. "There’s no doubt that a collaborative, coordinated approach is essential as we move forward."
Genesee County Sheriff Robert Pickell is asking Snyder for $3 million to fund an 18-officer mobile crime response team for one year.
Pickell said the team of officers could be quickly dispatched to address violent crime in a concentrated way -- almost as quickly as it starts.
A written proposal outlining the mobile team proposes that it consist of six county sheriff's deputies, six officers from the city of Flint, two Michigan State Police troopers and one officer each from Burton, Flint, Genesee and Mt. Morris townships.
Pickell said earlier today that he's tried to tailor the proposal to Snyder's push for more collaboration and sharing of services to address problems
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Silfven's e-mail said the governor's office would "continue working with the MSP and our local partners to develop plans that best suit each community. We look forward to sharing more details when the governor releases his special message on public safety."
That public safety message is expected to be delivered by Snyder this month, possibly in the next week or so, Silfven said.
During his State of the State address in January, Snyder said it was "unacceptable" that four Michigan cities -- Flint, Detroit, Saginaw and Pontiac -- are among the nation's most violent cities.
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Sat Mar 03, 2012 1:59 pm |
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It doesn't matter if you hate Pickell or love Pickell, at least he is out there trying something.
Last summer a multi unit response team stopped the fighting downtown at the Back to the Bricks. Led by the man who is nor the Burton Police Chief it was an impressive display of unity and precision.
Out county Police Chiefs recognize that Flint crime does not stay in Flint and it affects everyone. Years ago young nomads and other runaways were aligned with east side gangs. They stole a car on the east side of Flint and drove to the suburbs for B & E's. They often stole a second car in the suburbs and drove it back to Flint. |
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Sat Mar 03, 2012 2:22 pm |
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I watched the channel 12 video again and I still think it is a remarkably trite piece.
There is no funding
High Point North Carolina points too the failures of other communities to replicate their program and stste it must be followed exactly as they set it up or it fails.
Two young people amidst all of our violence is not a great success story.
Within the last 24 hrs while Lock was basking in his alleged success story:
(Couldn't catch all of the shootings)
MURDER 313 Fleming Rd
shots fired into an occupied house on the 2800 block Mackin (moved from the 3000 block which is usually the target)
shots fired into a Mott Park area home 2500 block Bagley
shots fired 1200 block Milbourne
shots fired 3000 block N Chevrolet
2 incidents on Delaware and shots fired into occupied on 2600 block Delaware
home invasion in 2800 block Colorado where they shot the dog |
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Mon Mar 05, 2012 8:29 am |
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quote:
untanglingwebs schreef:
Published: Sunday, February 19, 2012, 7:00 AM Updated: Sunday, February 19, 2012, 8:46 AM
By David Harris | dharris5@mlive.com
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(Flint Journal files)
FLINT, Michigan -- A nearly year-long study of the Flint Police Department by a team of Michigan State researchers determined the city's police department was
woefully understaffed, inefficient and did not do the type of policing proven to reduce crime
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Wow! David Harris may be the new winner of the "State the Obvious" award!!! Anybody that has lived in Flint for more than a few weeks (some might say a few hours), could have told you that.
When Lock was appointed as the police chief, I posted that he was unqualified for the position. He has proven me, and all those that questioned his qualifications, to be correct.
But Lock is not the only problem. When Snyder appointed Brown as Chief Clown, he put in a man that has too many connections that he wants to help out or protect. A perfect example is that Brown is supposed to be cutting the unnecessary outlay of money. But yet he gives thousands of dollars to the Genesee County Chamber of Commerce (with whom he has strong connections). When Brown was interim Mayor, he also gave the GCCC a large sum of money, contributing to our financial problems. That money could have gone towards Flint needs. The Genesee County C of C is not going to have much luck bringing business to Flint with a crime rate near the top of the country and a murder rate that is first in the country.
Yes, the fish stinks from the head down. It's time to cut off the head, gut the fish, skin it and only keep the filet (which I believe are the officers that are doing the best they can under the circumstances).
Governor Snyder, a man that I believe is making a good case to not be reelected needs to find a qualified emergency manager to replace Brown, without all the "Good ole Boy" connections. Hopefully it is a manager that will stay at these town hall meetings and answer questions, instead of running off when the questions become more intelligent than Brown. |
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Sat Jun 09, 2012 3:52 am |
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ADOPTED: 4/26/2012
resolution # 2012 EM 239
4/26/2012
BY THE EMERGENCY MANAGER:
RESOLUTION TO EXTEND THE
EMPLOYMENT OF ALVERN LOCK
The employment of Public Safety Director Alvern Lock shall be continued on an at-will
basis pursuant to authority granted the Emergency Manager by Public Act 4.
Mr. Lock’s
employment with the City of Flint shall be at the will of the Emergency Manager until such time
as the Emergency Manager determines that his employment shall cease, or until such time as his
authority as Emergency Manager terminates by operation of law, whichever comes first; and;
Mr. Lock shall continue to serve in his present capacity at the agreed upon annual salary
05,000.00, paid in biweekly installments and subject to customary withholdings. Mr. Lock
not be entitled to overtime or any other fringe benefits of employment. Any leave requests
be presented to and approved by the Emergency Manager.
IT IS RESOLVED, that the Emergency Manager shall, on behalf of the City of Flint,
extend the employment of Alvem Lock at the agreed upon compensation of $105,000.00 per
year, with no fringe benefits. Further, Mr. Lock’s appointment in this capacity is subject to the
parameters set forth above.. |
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Mon Jun 11, 2012 7:41 am |
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The rumor mill is churning in the Flint Police Dept.
Rumor # 1. Lock may be gone soon. His contract has been extended, but it appears to be an at will contract, meaning Brown can terminate him at any time.
Rumor # 2. Problems with the Sgt. test given last week. Usually a standardized test and the books issued for study relate to the test. Some Sgt candidates are not sure if they passed because they said the test was nothing like the study materials.
Rumor # 3. Lock and Jones had a disagreement about the oral part of the test Lock allegedly wanted local cops for the test questions and Jones said no.
I hear Lock showed up for the meeting at the Police Academy but he did not speak to the group and left as though he was angry. The meeting was SOS (Same Old Shit) where the group identified the issues. They have been doing this this for over 5 years with no results.
The MSU representative claims this time there will be action. There is another meeting July 7th. |
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Mon Jun 11, 2012 7:52 am |
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quote:
untanglingwebs schreef:
The rumor mill is churning in the Flint Police Dept.
Rumor # 1. Lock may be gone soon. His contract has been extended, but it appears to be an at will contract, meaning Brown can terminate him at any time.
Rumor # 2. Problems with the Sgt. test given last week. Usually a standardized test and the books issued for study relate to the test. Some Sgt candidates are not sure if they passed because they said the test was nothing like the study materials.
Rumor # 3. Lock and Jones had a disagreement about the oral part of the test Lock allegedly wanted local cops for the test questions and Jones said no.
I hear Lock showed up for the meeting at the Police Academy but he did not speak to the group and left as though he was angry. The meeting was SOS (Same Old Shit) where the group identified the issues. They have been doing this this for over 5 years with no results.
The MSU representative claims this time there will be action. There is another meeting July 7th.
Thank very much for your comment. It help me to think about for my ideals.
This link below can show more info, you can find them at:
Police interview questions
Tks again. |
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Sun Sep 23, 2012 9:30 pm |
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WOW! This looks like it's almost completely untangling Webs blog on this issue. Flint could have 10 times as many officers and crime would be just the same as it is RIGHT NOW! If you can't see this there's no help for you to be able to! Flint Officers and City policy do not require officers to actually DO THEIR JOB! At least the Job that the majority of Citizens feel or think they should be doing!
Flint will not go after criminals because it cost too much money to actually put criminals away! They are a drain on the system! You can't get people whose objective in life is to steal from their neighbor and themselves don't really own anything they themselves care about since they stole it!
Flint will not even entertain the idea of simply implementing a system they already have available to help catch criminals that are breaking into houses. One that they could cut crime by 20 percent in just a few months! Because it wouldn't require hiring more officers to run around in circles! It would make their jobs easier and not bring in any more State or federal money! And the city couldn't beg for more money anymore! Because they'd actually solve crime easily without having to hire more officers!
I won't support the Police Millage or Hiring more officers until they decide to stop complaining about needing more like they have been for over 20 years! There was only one time in Flint's history that I know of that Flint did more with less officers. And Chief Barksdale was not a politician. But he cut crime, had an excellent record of arrests. BUT NO ONE OUT THERE BESIDES myself seems to give a shit! Because he did the job and got results without having to beg for money! |
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quote:
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Thank very much for your comment. It help me to think about for my ideals.
This link below can show more info, you can find them at:
Police interview questions
Tks again.
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