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Topic: Does David Leyton and Carr represent your goals for Flint?

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josismoct
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Dear Mr. 1----guy,

Thank you for your sentiments. But, you have NOTHING to actually apoligize for. Why shouldn't you speak your opinions? Of course, you should. We all SHOULD!

I think you hit the nail staright on the head about Flinn potentially being actually an "employee" by Leyton due to the crazy mad response you got from Flinn.

I think they are more than close freinds. heres my THEORY: i "think" you are 100% correct on your HUNCH, that Leyton pays Flinn specifically. monitoring and keeping abreast of all the posts on this site would be a "job", more than a casual hobby... then can you IMAGINE Flinn fowarding emails to Leyton re: activity and topic, and mindset etc of users. SOUNDS PlAUSIBLE, doesn't it...even if it's just a THEORY and a bogger's OPINION.

Re: Remembering Flint. I don't remember Flint as ever so wonderful. But what it was, was a land based town that had a unique industry that offered gainful employment to people from all over. it had potential. But it's not a water port, so i'm surprised the auto comapanies 100 years ago actually locate in Bay City or Port Huron. Communities and services built up around the needs of that one industry and it's workers. Spark Plugs, Hospitals, schools, radio stations, bakeries, everything.

But Flint has always had an air of fifedon, feudal lordship of the industry execs and the worker bees. every so often the son of a worker bee makes good writing about it, and overcomes to gain more economical status.

But the real legacy of Flint, the one I learned to RESPECT in elementary school, IS the history of RESEPCT for the worker. I learned about the sit ins, the first worker strikes, the non violent protests, their victory and the rightness of their goals, their victory to help each other through consolidation and unionization, to protect the individual workers. Very noble. This is Flint collective history. I've always held these democratic beliefs close to my heart.

I used to wonder how anyone could grow up in Flint and not be a democrat! I didn't realize until well into my adult hood that most the "democrats" in public pursuit of public office are just ordinary persons who seek attention- public attention.

it's not so much that they are democrats, especially in Flint. For these folks they'd easily be republicans, wigs, whatever... if that party line got you in...politicians, they are charletons, wannabees, users. And they come with a cache of groupies, hanger on's. Amazing but true. Personally, I hate clicks, queen bees, and groupies, etc

You know these political canidates for the most part, they are not talented per se at music, art, sports. They are not brilliant economists, scientists, or surgeons. Nor hard workers eithers. These are politicians who have honed their BS skills, and that's about it. Narscissists who seek glorification and attention and perks.

Unfortunately, the unions needed union bosses, and from there the unions became tainted with "political" clicks and a forum for personal power plays.

it probably feels so naturally thrilling to be an ordinary factory guy now hobnobbing at bargaining tables with the lords of industry. The unions went too far the other way, so GM paid for viagra, and clocking in to work became optional..and all kinds of abuses, which was not the intent of the sit in.

Those workers from those sit in days, NEEDED and wanted respect for the work they did, to just simply be able to not be abused, to be able to provide for their family with dignity....not to create a system to be gamed.

So the story of Flint, is a story of good ideas, and these ideas growing into hugely successful industry, and being profitable, and workers demanding FAIR treatment, and the excess desires, greed, and sin in the human spirit and condition getting out of porportion, thus creating an opportunity for all of it to collapse, and it did.

And what we are left with in 2011, is a shell of a city, with residents and suberbs. some people moving on, some hanging on, some failing and falling through the cracks of a society that simply does not exist in the same way it did.

reality is our freind. we must all see things as they are right now. we can remeber fondly the energy and glee from all the potential that collectively was, but maturity in each of us, lets us compartimentalize our fond feelings, our past hopes and dreaams and balance it with the realities of today. For example, once my house was new and didn't need a new roof. 25 years later, the trees are mature. we have racoons roosting in the eaves, and I need a new roof. Do I wax poetically about the glory days of a new home? sure. Will it help me get a new one? NOPE.

People need to address and deal with what is. You'll save yourself a lot of grief! But that doesn't mean there still aren't good that needs to be accomplished even if you have to let go of fantasizing about rebirth of a city.

People do care. Along with sin, caring is also part of the collective human condition, and i believe that even if it's a difficult task, good does overcome evil in the human condition and that is why you all care. Cause you DESIRE good and want the best for people and your city, county, state, and country.
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