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Ryan Eashoo
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If That 'Mosque' ISN'T Built, This Is No Longer America
OpenMike 9/11/10
Michael Moore's daily blog
I am opposed to the building of the "mosque" two blocks from Ground Zero.
I want it built on Ground Zero.
Why? Because I believe in an America that protects those who are the victims of hate and prejudice. I believe in an America that says you have the right to worship whatever God you have, wherever you want to worship. And I believe in an America that says to the world that we are a loving and generous people and if a bunch of murderers steal your religion from you and use it as their excuse to kill 3,000 souls, then I want to help you get your religion back. And I want to put it at the spot where it was stolen from you.
There's been so much that's been said about this manufactured controversy, I really don't want to waste any time on this day of remembrance talking about it. But I hate bigotry and I hate liars, and so in case you missed any of the truth that's been lost in this, let me point out a few facts:
1. I love the Burlington Coat Factory. I've gotten some great winter coats there at a very reasonable price. Muslims have been holding their daily prayers there since 2009. No one ever complained about that. This is not going to be a "mosque," it's going to be a community center. It will have the same prayer room in it that's already there. But to even have to assure people that "it's not going to be mosque" is so offensive, I now wish they would just build a 111-story mosque there. That would be better than the lame and disgusting way the developer has left Ground Zero an empty hole until recently. The remains of over 1,100 people still haven't been found. That site is a sacred graveyard, and to be building another monument to commerce on it is a sacrilege. Why wasn't the entire site turned into a memorial peace park? People died there, and many of their remains are still strewn about, all these years later.
2. Guess who has helped the Muslims organize their plans for this community center? The JEWISH COMMUNITY CENTER of Manhattan! Their rabbi has been advising them since the beginning. It's been a picture-perfect example of the kind of world we all want to live in. Peter Stuyvessant, New York's "founder," tried to expel the first Jews who arrived in Manhattan. Then the Dutch said, no, that's a bit much. So then Stuyvessant said ok, you can stay, but you cannot build a synagogue anywhere in Manhattan. Do your stupid Friday night thing at home. The first Jewish temple was not allowed to be built until 1730. Then there was a revolution, and the founding fathers said this country has to be secular -- no religious nuts or state religions. George Washington (inaugurated around the corner from Ground Zero) wanted to make a statement about this his very first year in office, and wrote this to American Jews:
"The citizens of the United States of America have a right to applaud themselves for having given to mankind examples of an enlarged and liberal policy -- a policy worthy of imitation. ...
"It is now no more that toleration is spoken of as if it were the indulgence of one class of people that another enjoyed the exercise of their inherent natural rights, for, happily, the Government of the United States, which gives to bigotry no sanction, to persecution no assistance, requires only that they who live under its protection should demean themselves as good citizens ...
"May the children of the stock of Abraham who dwell in this land continue to merit and enjoy the good will of the other inhabitants -- while every one shall sit in safety under his own vine and fig tree and there shall be none to make him afraid."
3. The Imam in charge of this project is the nicest guy you'd ever want to meet. Read about his past here.
4. Around five dozen Muslims died at the World Trade Center on 9/11. Hundreds of members of their families still grieve and suffer. The 19 killers did not care what religion anyone belonged to when they took those lives.
5. I've never read a sadder headline in the New York Times than the one on the front page this past Monday: "American Muslims Ask, Will We Ever Belong?" That should make all of us so ashamed that even a single one of our fellow citizens should ever have to worry about if they "belong" here.
6. There is a McDonald's two blocks from Ground Zero. Trust me, McDonald's has killed far more people than the terrorists.
7. During an economic depression or a time of war, fascists are extremely skilled at whipping up fear and hate and getting the working class to blame "the other" for their troubles. Lincoln's enemies told poor Southern whites that he was "a Catholic." FDR's opponents said he was Jewish and called him "Jewsevelt." One in five Americans now believe Obama is a Muslim and 41% of Republicans don't believe he was born here.
8. Blaming a whole group for the actions of just one of that group is anti-American. Timothy McVeigh was Catholic. Should Oklahoma City prohibit the building of a Catholic Church near the site of the former federal building that McVeigh blew up?
9. Let's face it, all religions have their whackos. Catholics have O'Reilly, Gingrich, Hannity and Clarence Thomas (in fact all five conservatives who dominate the Supreme Court are Catholic). Protestants have Pat Robertson and too many to list here. The Mormons have Glenn Beck. Jews have Crazy Eddie. But we don't judge whole religions on just the actions of their whackos. Unless they're Methodists.
10. If I should ever, God forbid, perish in a terrorist incident, and you or some nutty group uses my death as your justification to attack or discriminate against anyone in my name, I will come back and haunt you worse than Linda Blair marrying Freddy Krueger and moving into your bedroom to spawn Chucky. John Lennon was right when he asked us to imagine a world with "nothing to kill or die for and no religion, too." I heard Deepak Chopra this week say that "God gave humans the truth, and the devil came and he said, 'Let's give it a name and call it religion.' " But John Adams said it best when he wrote a sort of letter to the future (which he called "Posterity"): "Posterity! You will never know how much it cost the present Generation to preserve your Freedom! I hope you will make a good use of it. If you do not, I shall repent in Heaven that I ever took half the Pains to preserve it." I'm guessing ol' John Adams is up there repenting nonstop right now.
Friends, we all have a responsibility NOW to make sure that Muslim community center gets built. Once again, 70% of the country (the same number that initially supported the Iraq War) is on the wrong side and want the "mosque" moved. Enormous pressure has been put on the Imam to stop his project. We have to turn this thing around. Are we going to let the bullies and thugs win another one? Aren't you fed up by now? When would be a good time to take our country back from the haters?
I say right now. Let's each of us make a statement by donating to the building of this community center! It's a nonprofit, tax-exempt organization and you can donate a dollar or ten dollars (or more) right now through a secure pay pal account by clicking here. I will personally match the first $10,000 raised (forward your PayPal receipt to webguy@michaelmoore.com). If each one of you reading this blog/email donated just a couple of dollars, that would give the center over $6 million, more than what Donald Trump has offered to buy the Imam out. C'mon everyone, let's pitch in and help those who are being debased for simply wanting to do something good. We could all make a huge statement of love on this solemn day.
I lost a co-worker on 9/11. I write this today in his memory.
"The man who speaks of the enemy / Is the enemy himself."
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Not surprising considering the source that being left wing whacko mike he chose to leave out in his list of whacko preachers the likes of jeremiah (goddamn america) wright, obamas 20 year rev, Louie farraquahan a real nutcase, al sharpton who along with his sidekick jesse jackson use their suppose reverandhood to fill their pockets. And glareingly absent are the hundreds of muslim clerics who put out the call daily for death to America and death to the infidels. I knew mike was a clown and this furthur confirms it. How anyone can take what he spouts seriously is a mystery for sure.
The classic line in mikes latest dribble "I hate Liars" ya mike so do we, thats why your lie filled so called documentarys only inspire the leftist hollywood dimwits and the easily led sheeple who pay to see them.
Rich Liberal hypocrite nothing like em.  |
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Sun Sep 12, 2010 5:29 pm |
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Ryan Eashoo
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Wash Post: Big Foundations Defunding ACORN
by Publius
We’ve always given at least bit of credence to the theory that the most interesting stories in the Washington Post and New York Times run on Saturday, when editors try to dump any real reporting that happens to slip through their filters.
This Saturday, the Washington Post added another data point supporting this theory with decent reporting on ACORN’s troubles with its big donors:
The liberal political organizing group ACORN, battered by the release of embarrassing videos and allegations of financial mismanagement and fraud, has also been losing support from several major foundations.
The Ford Foundation, the Annie E. Casey Foundation, the Charles Stewart Mott Foundation, the Marguerite Casey Foundation and Bank of America have stopped funding the group and its affiliates over the past year and a half.
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Mon Sep 13, 2010 9:27 am |
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Ryan Eashoo
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City Of Flint inflicted with "Recall Fever" or just democracy?
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As we watch the events unfold in Detroit tomorrow in the court room of Federal Judge Tarnow Keep in mind it’s the people work being done.
The Clerks representing the neutral competence required in the administration of our elections and legal challenges to its results through the citizens right to recall are in one corner.
The Citizens represent the importance of the individual voter. are in the other corner.
Here a group of regular citizens not seeking the office only representing those dissatisfied with an election office holder in a flagrant act of democracy signed their name to a petition.
The citizens are not to be measured by the volunteer organizers, some would call a disorganized rag tagged lot. The Citizens must be measure by the thousands of people who signed these petitions. Some one has to step forward and do it to create the language, print, organize and circulate petitions. Possibly it is logical that the most angry of us not the most skilled will wrap themselves in this robe of democracy. The test is the quality of the signatures not the political characteristics of the organizers. Citizens signed these petitions and they demand in this democracy that their voice be heard.
DISCLAIMER you can skip this part: This is a blog, I have an opinion, a position and a reputation I place on the line. I am personally against recall initiatives meaning I have never signed a recall petition or voted to recall an incumbent I plan to continue this position. I am personally for the application of neutral competence and transparency in the conduct of election officials . These official are the gatekeepers of democracy. To me it is more important for all valid signatures to be used to tally whether a magic number is reached to force the vote. This Clerk accountability is more important than the question of the recall itself. When the validity of a signature is in question it is for the court to decide. Finally it is rough duty to protect the rights of all of us by representing the recall committee. F. Anthony Lubkin the Citizens attorney has earned my respect for his efforts. I will not second guess the court.END DISCLAIMER
The citizens committee is , from the court case caption DAVID DAVENPORT, author of Recall Language, and Volunteer for COMMITTEE TO RECALL DAYNE WALLING, and DAN PARKS, in his capacity as Committee Chairman CRAIG SMITH, in his capacity as Committee Treasurer. ALEX HARRIS. in his capacity as its Committee Vice-Chairman, will argue for and declare victory tomorrow in federal court. Their position with the sample directed to be take by the court they have enough valid signatures.
The clerks MICHAEL CARR, Genesee County Clerk and INEZ BROWN, Flint City Clerk will argue they dod not. The Attorney for the Citizens is F. Anthony Lubkin. The attorney for the clerks are Clint City Attorney Peter Bade and other counsel from two large reputable firms one being Miller Canfield .
IN THE CONTROVERSY SURROUNDNING THE PETITION SIGNATURE REJECTION SEVERAL CATEGORIES OF REJECTION ARE BEING CHALLENGED.
1. Signature that the clerks say do not match the signature on the ballot cards NHS.
2. Duplicate signature where the clerks rejected both not keeping the first and rejecting the rest.
3. Claims of illegibility
4. And more
400 beyond the nhs category will be in heated debate tomorrow.
CITIZENS RECALL COMMITTEE TO ARGUE THEY HAVE ENOUGH PROVEN CONCLUSIVELY TO BE WRONGLY REJECTED BY THE CLERKS TO HAVE THE RECALL PLACED ON THE NOVEMBER BALLOT.
When the clerks directed that the petition signature to place a recall election on the Flint Office of the Mayor fell short the number short was 520. Attorney Lubkin stated that last week the Judge moved several from the uncounted Colum to the counted Colum . The new shortage number last week was lowered to 495.
The Judged order the parties to cooperate and find a statistician to cause a random sampling and survey of the pool of 536 NHS signatures. It is contemptuous how the clerks and their attorney have thwarted the efforts to comply with the judges directive. The Citizens hired a Wayne State Professor Shinki to pull a sample which he did. He will testify Tuesday that this sample has a 95% reliability.
The argument will be that as directed by the court of the NHS pool of 536 a random sample of 20 was picked. When interviewed over the weekend 19 people of the 20 in the sample said they signed the petition. Implicitly they showed the clerks made a mistake. These people signed affidavits and most if not all have agreed to have their testimony video taped.
THEY WILL ARGUE THAT THE EVIDENCE WILL CONCLUSIVELY GIVE THE JUDGE A BASIS TO ORDER A PLELIMINARY INJUNCTION.
A preliminary injunction will allow the Recall of Flint Mayor Dayne Walling question to be printed on the ballot. This would be followed by a trial or formal hearing where evidence is submitted for a final decision. If the Citizens then failed the Judge could order the results of the election to be ignored.
THE RANDOM SAMPLING OF THE NHS SIGNATURES FOUND THAT OF THE POOL OF 536 95% [19/20] OR 509 SAID THE SIGNATURES ARE THEIRS, VALID AND SHOULD BE COUNTED.
If the judge allows the sample to be entered as evidence and found to be accurate the threshold has been met and the recall question should be placed on Ballot . The clerks argue that the real deadline for placing the question on the November ballot is this week.
If a preliminary injunction is granted it will only cause the printing of the ballot there will still be a trial.
If the preliminary injunction is not granted it will only mean that the ballots will not be printed for the November election. There will still be a trial and the question to recall Flint Mayor Dayne Walling could be placed on the ballot in February.
IN ADDITION TO THE NHS CODED SIGNATURES THERE ARE 400 ADITIONAL SIGNATURES NOT CODED NHS THAT ARE HOTLY CONTESTED.
At 9 pm 9/13/2010 I talked with Attorney F. Anthony Lubkin counsel for the Committee to recall Dayne Walling.
Walling is the current Mayor of Flint Michigan. We talked about the hearing tomorrow in the court room of judge. Judge Arthur J. Tarnow United States District Court
for the Eastern District of Michigan, Theodore Levin U.S. Courthouse,,231 W. Lafayette Blvd., Room 124,Detroit, MI 48226
This hearing was caused when the Recall Committees appealed the county clerk's office ruling that the recall would not go on the November ballot because of insignificant valid signatures.
WHAT WILL HAPPEN PROCEDURALLY TUESDAY
Attorney Lubkin stated that "the clerks and their attorney have done everything they could to thwart the directive of Judge Tarnow. “They ignored us and treated us like crap. The Citizens went door to door over the weekend the clerks attorneys would not cooperate. On Monday there was a meeting in the Flint City Clerks office set for 8:30 they did not arrive until 10 a.m.. The clerks attorneys participated in no meaningful way…they refused to do the sample they did not do anything they were supposed to do. The Citizens have been proactive to get this job done and the clerks have been obstructionist Lubkin implied. They have been stalling. At the very least enough has been demonstrated that the preliminary injunction should be ordered, then a full evidentiary hearing held. This glives the judge time and he can order the election to be disregarded if the citizens are not victorious"
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Mon Sep 13, 2010 10:43 pm |
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Ryan Eashoo
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Looks like Walling has sank to new lows, I hope all this comes out in Court under oath. [b] |
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Mon Sep 13, 2010 10:46 pm |
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| The founder of the Rhodes scholarships Cecil Rhodes 1853-1902 must be turning over in his grave, saying "oops" this is not the intention I had in mind for scholarships in my name. How could we have made such a monumental mistake. Equally at fault was the nominating committee that approved wallings application to go to England. Stay tuned more "new lows" forthcoming from that administration. Desparate people do desparate things. |
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Tue Sep 14, 2010 11:25 am |
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Ryan Eashoo
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How much of the taxpayers money is Walling wasting fighting this RECALL?
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Tue Sep 14, 2010 8:07 pm |
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Hey,
Does anyone know what Walling's credentials are? Is there a way to find out?
I hope this reacall goes through, I doubt it but I can hope. |
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Tue Sep 14, 2010 8:25 pm |
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ronald barry robinson
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| I my opinion the recall organizers should undertake a Forensic accounting immediately to asertain if and how much of the tax payer dollars are being used or mis-used in wallings efforts to allegedly manipulate due process on this recall. |
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Tue Sep 14, 2010 8:31 pm |
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ronald barry robinson
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| I my opinion the recall organizers should undertake a Forensic accounting immediately to asertain if and how much of the tax payer dollars are being used or mis-used in wallings efforts to allegedly manipulate due process on this recall. Please view my posts on Flinttalk.com Access The "In My Opinion" Show with Host Ronald Barry Robinson and Friends seen on the Internet 24 hours 7 days weekley. |
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Tue Sep 14, 2010 8:42 pm |
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Ryan Eashoo
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Federal Judge has told Michael Carr to print the ballots. This issue will be on the November 4 ballot, however we are not sure if it will count or not. Future court dates hold the answer to that.
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Wed Sep 15, 2010 12:33 am |
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Ryan Eashoo
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ROUGH NOTES
I interviewed Attorney Lubkin at 10;50 pm 09/14/10.
The judge said to the litigants. " Did you run a sample I gave you instruction to get some one to draw a sample and get to work on it.
Lubkin stated the citizens committee had hired from Wayne State University Dr, Shinki a PHD. His job was to select a universe of nhs coded signatures that were rejected by the clerks. NHS were signatures that did not match the signature on file in the clerks office.
Dr. Shinki drew sample of 736 in sample. To the irritation of the judge the clerks came into court and said the had a need for larger sample. They brought an expert to say so. This expert was a friend of theirs named Gulliand.
The Judge asked the clerks how large of a sample did you run the clerks said none.
The judge said the citizens sample of 20 was better that none.
Inez Brown sat in the stand. She said she used the 8 codes in the state brochure, she testified, ..she allowed the entry of new code verbally with no record. Lupkin said he was faced with clerk testimony where the statndards can't determined, he said all the invented codes were rouge codes and stealth codes because no one new their meaning. etc... Lupkin then reviewed codes and problems ...ditto marks and numbers were confused, ...there was no constancy in how the clerks did their job... Mike Carr was to appear he showed up in the back of the room, and at 2 pm Carr left the court ..
Gilbreath had testified he has a taped a conversation with Carr saying the recall will never happen, it was tape recorded and was given to attorney general, Carr never responded to the challenges of Mike Gilbreath, The citizens put on the stand two people that actually signed the petitions and their signature was rejected.
3 elements in dispute [1]3300 struck improperly [2]536 in sample universe only 510 needed, [3]plus duplicate signatures, for 30 years she had always allowed the first of a duplicate but was ordered by Carr to not do that this year. court took under advisement the duplicates, the judge is reviewing the codes, or if he accepts the sampling that puts the effort over the top...it can be temporary or permanent is up to the judge.. he was annoyed Pete Bade never spoke up...Bade even missed at hearing ...Bade spoke up and the end and the judge said "you talk" to Bade, judge says at end defendant Carr delayed a lot ,
The clerks misled the judge saying the ballot deadline was Friday earlier and today saying it was Tuesday.
Carr never took the stand and let the searing comments against him the day prior...
Clerks 5 attorneys on their side
Hodge of Miller Canfield said he had a high school reunion and could not participate over weekend
Judge ask if the firm of Miller Canfield and Paddock was a sole proprietorship,
Was this petition check rigged…we hope not…if anything we hope it was only negligence.. If the judge rules in favor of the recall circulators… there must be accountability.
The lack of standards has to be devastating… |
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Wed Sep 15, 2010 10:29 am |
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Ryan Eashoo
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When will the local media wake up and start reporting this?
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Wed Sep 15, 2010 9:50 pm |
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The local media owes the same people that the politicians owe.
We do not have an independent media, they are afraid of losing a sponsor, so there will never be free and open discussion on anything to do with Flint.
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Thu Sep 16, 2010 7:48 am |
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Ryan Eashoo
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I think the Flint Journal is as about as useful as Walling.
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cleartheair schreef:
The local media owes the same people that the politicians owe.
We do not have an independent media, they are afraid of losing a sponsor, so there will never be free and open discussion on anything to do with Flint.
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