_________________ "If you like your current healthcare you can keep it, Period"!!
Barack Hussein Obama--- multiple times.
Sun Aug 09, 2009 9:07 am
Ponycar F L I N T O I D
The democrat controlled congress is way out of touch. It's obvious that a majority of Americans don't want health care reform but Obama and the Obamunist's are hell bent on passing it anyway. Every member of congrees should realize that they work for their constituents. The constitution read " We the people" not "We the congress". If the health care bill that they are trying to shove down our throats is soooo great, why is it not good enough for members of congress and Obama ?
_________________ A government big enough to give you everything is also powerful enough to take it all away.
Sun Aug 09, 2009 11:22 am
twotap F L I N T O I D
I remember when old Slick Willie Clinton nominated Joycelyn Elders surgeon general claiming she was gods gift to the medical world. I thought OK if you or your wife or kid need major surgery make sure you put your money where your mouth is and let old Joycellen wield the scalpel.
_________________ "If you like your current healthcare you can keep it, Period"!!
Barack Hussein Obama--- multiple times.
Sun Aug 09, 2009 11:55 am
back again F L I N T O I D
the majority of americans
don't
want health care? are you
nuts?
i'll bet both of you gentlemen have it.
welcome to the wingnut show!!
_________________ even a small act of goodness may be a tiny raft of salvation across the treacherous gulf of sin, but one who drinks the wine of selfishness, and dances on the little boat of meaness, sinks in the ocean of ignorance.
P.Y.
Sun Aug 09, 2009 1:34 pm
twotap F L I N T O I D
Its starting to look like they do not want Obamacare. But hey if the dem majority feels comfortable with it go ahead and pass screw the repubs and the dissenters why would they be reluctant after all everybody wants it they has the power..
_________________ "If you like your current healthcare you can keep it, Period"!!
Barack Hussein Obama--- multiple times.
Sun Aug 09, 2009 3:12 pm
Tegan F L I N T O I D
it seems the majority of americans don't want healthcare
run by the government.
most do agree that the program needs to be improved, but they want it to be completely understood and open to criticism, rather than hidden away
_________________ "Preservationists are the only people in the world who are invariably confirmed in their wisdom after the fact." - John Kenneth Galbraith
Sun Aug 09, 2009 5:54 pm
back again F L I N T O I D
now
that
makes sense tegan.
_________________ even a small act of goodness may be a tiny raft of salvation across the treacherous gulf of sin, but one who drinks the wine of selfishness, and dances on the little boat of meaness, sinks in the ocean of ignorance.
P.Y.
Sun Aug 09, 2009 7:48 pm
Ponycar F L I N T O I D
Backagain, If you would take a minute to read my post, you would see that I didn't say most Americans don't want health care. The fact is, most Americans are happy with the health care they have (73%). Most Americans don't want health care reform under Obamas plan. Today I seen a TV add from the DNC attacking the protesters. I've never seen anything so foolish in my life. If people want to protest health care reform, it's their constitutional right under the 1st amendment. I have never seen a president who can't take criticism like Obama can't. By the way Backagian, I do have a health care plan. As a matter of fact, I have 2 health insurances. One from my current job that I pay for, and one from being retired military. Again I ask, If Obama care is good enough for us, why isn't it good enough for him and members of congress ?
_________________ A government big enough to give you everything is also powerful enough to take it all away.
Mon Aug 10, 2009 12:58 am
twotap F L I N T O I D
Thou shalt not question the Messiah Obama. I see hes once again going after the CIA on some kind of witch hunt. Oh look what just turned up a Kenya birth certificate for one Barack Hussein Obama well what do you know? Tegan is 100% correct a majority of Americans do not want the government taking over healthcare thats why the protests. As far as the DNC what a bunch of clowns I hope that ad comes back to bite em right on their liberal asses. Hey Backagain hows this sound??
_________________ even a small act of goodness may be a tiny raft of salvation across the treacherous gulf of sin, but one who drinks the wine of selfishness, and dances on the little boat of meaness, sinks in the ocean of ignorance.
P.Y.
Mon Aug 10, 2009 12:46 pm
Ponycar F L I N T O I D
Typical response from backagain when he don't have an answer.
_________________ A government big enough to give you everything is also powerful enough to take it all away.
Mon Aug 10, 2009 1:10 pm
Domet F L I N T O I D
quote:Ponycar schreef:
Most Americans don't want health care reform under Obamas plan.
Obama doesn't have a healthcare plan. Despite what many people have been saying, Obama has not submitted a healthcare plan and has not taken sides on any of the bills circulating through Congress. Your statement is a little misleading.
Actually, and I know I'm kind of splitting hairs on this, but there is no reason to believe that the majority of Americans don't want national healthcare plan.
This poll combines a number of major polls (Pew, Rasmussen, FOX, CNN, Democracy Corps, NBC/WSJ, NPR) to get averages. This is actually gives us a better view of real averages because it takes out weighted averages given to pollsters like FOX and NPR - since both appeal to a particular political orientation, those weighted ends disappear when their sample population is combined with a greater group. Pollster.com analysis tells us that the numbers in fact read as 44.4% in favor of, 44.3% against and 7.1% undecided.
quote:Ponycar schreef:
The fact is, most Americans are happy with the health care they have (73%).
Where did you get this number from? I'm just curious because I can't find anything similar to it. I would like to know the methodology - who they sampled, how old the poll is..
FOX News (a source I am seriously concerned about using) even says, "But while insured Americans say overwhelmingly that they are satisfied, more than half of them -- 52 percent -- believe that becoming uninsured poses a "critical problem," 36 percent view the threat as "serious but not critical," and another 7 percent see it as a "problem, but not serious."
It's difficult to really ascertain what we want to do with healthcare, and using polls (especially without citing a source) is just irresponsible without digging deeper into the scenario.
quote:Ponycar schreef:
As a matter of fact, I have 2 health insurances. One from my current job that I pay for, and one from being retired military.
I'm not sure if you're just rubbing it in his face or if you're just bragging here - why would you even have two health insurance policies? Are you one of those "not completely satisfied" people who didn't think your Army insurance was enough?
quote:Ponycar schreef:
Again I ask, If Obama care is good enough for us, why isn't it good enough for him and members of congress ?
Because there isn't an "Obamacare" bill, which makes that kind of a stupid question =/.
Mon Aug 10, 2009 1:57 pm
twotap F L I N T O I D
So once Obama does get a plan are those that question it unAmerican and nazi like???
_________________ "If you like your current healthcare you can keep it, Period"!!
Barack Hussein Obama--- multiple times.
Mon Aug 10, 2009 5:53 pm
Domet F L I N T O I D
quote:twotap schreef:
So once Obama does get a plan are those that question it unAmerican and nazi like???
There may be those that say that, but I have no qualms about anybody questioning anything. Every person should take the time to question the things their leaders say. I think they should do it with reason and logic, but I suppose we all have our own ways. Would I attack your opinion if it was based on foolishness? Certainly. If it were based on numbers, facts and pretty decent logic, I would probably say something along the lines of, "Eh, to each their own!"
Mon Aug 10, 2009 8:00 pm
back again F L I N T O I D
"when he
does'nt
have an answer"
now do you see why ponycar?? zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
_________________ even a small act of goodness may be a tiny raft of salvation across the treacherous gulf of sin, but one who drinks the wine of selfishness, and dances on the little boat of meaness, sinks in the ocean of ignorance.
P.Y.
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How dare you ask him a question? hey dimwit those questions are coming from your bosses. Check out the comments at the bottom.
