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Obama: Stealth Socialist?
By INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY | Posted Friday, May 16, 2008 4:30 PM PT
Election 2008: After his blowout win in North Carolina, Barack Obama crowed that it's time "to perfect this nation." What does that mean? He won't say — perhaps for good reason.
As this long primary season drags on, the presumed Democratic nominee for president still won't bring his vision for "change" into focus. He continues to speak in glittering generalities, providing few details.
The reticence, combined with Obama's radical ties, begs the question: Is he hiding an un-American agenda?
We know his longtime mentor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, detests America and its capitalist system, viewing it as unjust, oppressive and enslaving to minorities. He and his fellow travelers think they have in Obama the perfect candidate to remake America into a self-loathing dispenser of apologetic largesse to victim groups at home and Marxist regimes abroad.
Key among these is reverend-turned-professor James Cone, who believes merging Marxism with the Gospel will liberate African-Americans from the supposed economic slavery of "white" capitalism. "Together," he says, "black religion and Marxist philosophy may show us the way to build a completely new society."
Cone is the mentor of Obama's mentor, Wright. Wright adopted Cone's "black liberation theology" as his church's core doctrine. According to Cone, the reverend "is really the one who took it from my books and brought it to the church."
Cone's books are required reading at Chicago's Trinity United Church of Christ, where Obama has worshiped for the past 20 years. Trinity instituted the theology and its attendant "black value system" a full decade before Obama formally pledged membership in 1991.
Cone describes black liberation theology as "a faith that does justice," a concept embraced by Obama, who's even argued that "racial justice" cannot be achieved without "economic justice."
According to the theology, divine justice will come when black Jesus (Obama's church believes Christ was black) grants African-Americans the power to permanently destroy "white greed" and white institutions and replace them with their own "black value system."
Cone writes that "black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy" and all its institutions.
Trinity demands its members pledge allegiance instead to "black institutions" and "black leadership," and patronize black-only businesses. Obama himself has said America's institutions are "broken" and need to be "fixed."
Obama has recently tried to distance himself from his crackpot pastor, but he hasn't disavowed any part of the Marxist pseudo faith that embodies everything Wright has preached. He refuses to respond to even written questions about Cone and black liberation theology.
His campaign last year confirmed the doctrine is included in new-member packets provided by the church, and is taught in new-member classes. Both Obama and his wife have attended these classes, so it stands to reason they have been indoctrinated into the radical theology.
And Obama in his first book defended black liberation theology as sensible, and has even called his tutelage under Wright "the best education I ever had."
These days Obama has another term for his Afrocentric theology: the "social gospel." "Rev. Wright's sermons spoke directly to the social gospel," he has said, "and I found that very attractive."
Wright says his sermons are inspired by Cone's books, the contents of which should repulse every patriotic American, white or black. "To be black is to be committed to destroying everything this country loves and adores," Cone writes.
That Marxist commitment to revolution doesn't stop at the water's edge. Obama's church in the 1980s rallied to the cause of communist regimes in America's backyard — from Cuba to Grenada to Nicaragua — while downplaying the threat posed by the Soviet Union.
From his pulpit, Wright whitewashed the brutality of the Sandinista junta and condemned the U.S. for backing the contra freedom fighters.
"Our congregation stood in solidarity with the peasants in El Salvador and Nicaragua while our government was supporting the contras, who were killing peasants in those two countries," Wright recently thundered.
The black liberation theology adopted by his church is "very similar," Wright says, to the "liberation theology" espoused by the Marxist revolutionaries whom the contras fought in Nicaragua.
Wright also condemned as "terrorism" the U.S. invasion of Grenada to oust a budding militant Marxist regime. "We bombed Grenada and killed innocent civilians, babies," Wright claimed.
Does Obama intend to carry on that tradition of appeasing socialist despots in our hemisphere, starting with Raul Castro and Hugo Chavez? Nicaraguan leader Daniel Ortega will no doubt also find support. The Marxist thug has already endorsed Obama's campaign as "revolutionary."
While Obama has refused to wear a flag pin or stand with respect during the national anthem, he certainly doesn't look or speak the part of an angry anti-American race revolutionist. But appearances may be deceiving. His positions often align with black liberation theology.
"I don't see anything in (Obama's) books or in the (Philadelphia race) speech that contradicts black liberation theology," Cone recently remarked. Obama has just sanded over the "radical edge to it," he said.
Does Obama speak in a code recognizable to fellow travelers but not to most voters, who would be frightened off by a radical agenda? "If you're black, it's hard to say what you truly think and not upset white people," Cone said.
Obama has learned a trick, however, to put them at ease: "smile" and act "well mannered." And don't "seem angry" or make any "sudden moves," as he shared in his first book, "Dreams From My Father."
Also, talk about "hope" without saying what exactly it is you're hoping for. Tellingly, Cone writes a good deal about "hope theology" — which "places the Marxist emphasis on action and change in the Christian context (and) is compatible with black theology's concerns."
Likewise, Obama has suggested he'd use his faith as "an active, palpable agent in the world," and a source of "hope" in overcoming "economic injustice."
"I still believe in the power of the African-American religious tradition to spur social change," Obama said in a 2006 speech to the Washington-based socialist group, Call to Renewal.
Speaking of black revolution, Cone in his memoir said, "Hope is the expectation of that which is not. It is the belief that the impossible is possible, the 'not yet' is coming in history."
Here's Obama in his 2004 DNC convention speech: "Hope in the face of difficulty, hope in the face of uncertainty, the audacity of hope! In the end, a belief in things not seen, a belief that there are better days ahead."
In his 1969 book, "Black Theology and Black Power," which Trinity uses as a second bible, Cone said: "When we look at what whiteness has done to the minds of men in this country, we can see clearly what the New Testament meant when it spoke of the principalities and powers."
Here's Obama, in his 2006 "Call to Renewal" speech: "The black church understands in an intimate way the biblical call to feed the hungry and clothe the naked, and challenge powers and principalities."
Louis Farrakhan, head of the Nation of Islam, says Obama has been "very careful" to avoid the path of failed presidential hopefuls Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, who openly militated for black causes. "He has been groomed, wisely so, to be seen as a unifier, rather than one who speaks only for the hurt of black people," Farrakhan said.
When Obama marched on Washington with Farrakhan last decade, he said blacks turn to "black nationalism whenever we have a sense, as we do now, that white Americans couldn't care less about the profound problems African-Americans are facing."
He added they have to be smart about how they protest and go about reforming the system. "Cursing out white folks is not going to get the job done," he said. "We've got some hard nuts-and-bolts organizing and planning to do."
His mild-mannered style has thrown off even some angry black radicals, who want him to speak out more forcefully about the legacy of U.S. racism and economic inequality.
One is Princeton professor Cornel West, a militant black and self-described socialist. Reportedly, West was reluctant to join the refined Obama's presidential campaign until Obama took him aside and explained to him that he had to walk a rhetorical tightrope to reassure whites. West is now solidly on board his campaign as an adviser.
West, along with Wright and Cone, has argued for reparations for blacks. Obama seemed to sow the grounds for such a case in his Philadelphia speech.
"So many of the disparities that exist in the African-American community today can be directly traced to inequalities passed on from an earlier generation that suffered under the brutal legacy of slavery and Jim Crow," he said. "We still haven't fixed them."
He added, "That history helps explain the wealth and income gap between black and white."
Trinity's mission statement calls for "economic parity." Such anti-capitalist views are reflected in Obama's rhetoric and proposals.
Rated the most liberal member in the Senate, Obama wants to soak the most productive members of society and subsidize those who are not. He wants to hit small businesses and big corporations alike with major tax hikes — singling out for special rebuke oil producers and "Wall Street predators" who have "tricked" blacks out of their homes. At the same time, he plans to expand the welfare state with massive increases in domestic spending.
"We have more work to do," he told black graduates at Howard University last September. "It's time to seek a new dawn of justice in America. . . . We can right wrongs we see in America."
Cone says he wants to see a "new system" in America "in which people have the distribution of wealth." He adds, "I don't know how quite to do that institutionally."
Enter a Harvard-educated lawyer and Southside Chicago-trained community organizer who has a real shot at institutional power. As Obama promised black graduates at Hampton University last June, "We're going to usher in a new America."
Sounds like a Trojan horse. Will traditional America let it in? |
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twotap schreef:
Obama: Stealth Socialist?
By INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY | Posted Friday, May 16, 2008 4:30 PM PT
We know his longtime mentor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, detests America and its capitalist system, viewing it as unjust, oppressive and enslaving to minorities. He and his fellow travelers think they have in Obama the perfect candidate to remake America into a self-loathing dispenser of apologetic largesse to victim groups at home and Marxist regimes abroad.
Key among these is reverend-turned-professor James Cone, who believes merging Marxism with the Gospel will liberate African-Americans from the supposed economic slavery of "white" capitalism. "Together," he says, "black religion and Marxist philosophy may show us the way to build a completely new society."
Cone is the mentor of Obama's mentor, Wright. Wright adopted Cone's "black liberation theology" as his church's core doctrine. According to Cone, the reverend "is really the one who took it from my books and brought it to the church."
Cone's books are required reading at Chicago's Trinity United Church of Christ, where Obama has worshiped for the past 20 years. Trinity instituted the theology and its attendant "black value system" a full decade before Obama formally pledged membership in 1991.
Cone describes black liberation theology as "a faith that does justice," a concept embraced by Obama, who's even argued that "racial justice" cannot be achieved without "economic justice."
According to the theology, divine justice will come when black Jesus (Obama's church believes Christ was black) grants African-Americans the power to permanently destroy "white greed" and white institutions and replace them with their own "black value system."
Cone writes that "black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy" and all its institutions.
Trinity demands its members pledge allegiance instead to "black institutions" and "black leadership," and patronize black-only businesses. Obama himself has said America's institutions are "broken" and need to be "fixed."
Obama has recently tried to distance himself from his crackpot pastor, but he hasn't disavowed any part of the Marxist pseudo faith that embodies everything Wright has preached. He refuses to respond to even written questions about Cone and black liberation theology.
His campaign last year confirmed the doctrine is included in new-member packets provided by the church, and is taught in new-member classes. Both Obama and his wife have attended these classes, so it stands to reason they have been indoctrinated into the radical theology.
And Obama in his first book defended black liberation theology as sensible, and has even called his tutelage under Wright "the best education I ever had."
These days Obama has another term for his Afrocentric theology: the "social gospel." "Rev. Wright's sermons spoke directly to the social gospel," he has said, "and I found that very attractive."
Wright says his sermons are inspired by Cone's books, the contents of which should repulse every patriotic American, white or black. "To be black is to be committed to destroying everything this country loves and adores," Cone writes.
That Marxist commitment to revolution doesn't stop at the water's edge. Obama's church in the 1980s rallied to the cause of communist regimes in America's backyard — from Cuba to Grenada to Nicaragua — while downplaying the threat posed by the Soviet Union.
From his pulpit, Wright whitewashed the brutality of the Sandinista junta and condemned the U.S. for backing the contra freedom fighters.
"Our congregation stood in solidarity with the peasants in El Salvador and Nicaragua while our government was supporting the contras, who were killing peasants in those two countries," Wright recently thundered.
The black liberation theology adopted by his church is "very similar," Wright says, to the "liberation theology" espoused by the Marxist revolutionaries whom the contras fought in Nicaragua.
Wright also condemned as "terrorism" the U.S. invasion of Grenada to oust a budding militant Marxist regime. "We bombed Grenada and killed innocent civilians, babies," Wright claimed.
Does Obama intend to carry on that tradition of appeasing socialist despots in our hemisphere, starting with Raul Castro and Hugo Chavez? Nicaraguan leader Daniel Ortega will no doubt also find support. The Marxist thug has already endorsed Obama's campaign as "revolutionary."
While Obama has refused to wear a flag pin or stand with respect during the national anthem, he certainly doesn't look or speak the part of an angry anti-American race revolutionist. But appearances may be deceiving. His positions often align with black liberation theology.
"I don't see anything in (Obama's) books or in the (Philadelphia race) speech that contradicts black liberation theology," Cone recently remarked. Obama has just sanded over the "radical edge to it," he said.
Does Obama speak in a code recognizable to fellow travelers but not to most voters, who would be frightened off by a radical agenda? "If you're black, it's hard to say what you truly think and not upset white people," Cone said.
Obama has learned a trick, however, to put them at ease: "smile" and act "well mannered." And don't "seem angry" or make any "sudden moves," as he shared in his first book, "Dreams From My Father."
Also, talk about "hope" without saying what exactly it is you're hoping for. Tellingly, Cone writes a good deal about "hope theology" — which "places the Marxist emphasis on action and change in the Christian context (and) is compatible with black theology's concerns."
Likewise, Obama has suggested he'd use his faith as "an active, palpable agent in the world," and a source of "hope" in overcoming "economic injustice."
"I still believe in the power of the African-American religious tradition to spur social change," Obama said in a 2006 speech to the Washington-based socialist group, Call to Renewal.
Speaking of black revolution, Cone in his memoir said, "Hope is the expectation of that which is not. It is the belief that the impossible is possible, the 'not yet' is coming in history."
Here's Obama in his 2004 DNC convention speech: "Hope in the face of difficulty, hope in the face of uncertainty, the audacity of hope! In the end, a belief in things not seen, a belief that there are better days ahead."
In his 1969 book, "Black Theology and Black Power," which Trinity uses as a second bible, Cone said: "When we look at what whiteness has done to the minds of men in this country, we can see clearly what the New Testament meant when it spoke of the principalities and powers."
Here's Obama, in his 2006 "Call to Renewal" speech: "The black church understands in an intimate way the biblical call to feed the hungry and clothe the naked, and challenge powers and principalities."
Louis Farrakhan, head of the Nation of Islam, says Obama has been "very careful" to avoid the path of failed presidential hopefuls Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, who openly militated for black causes. "He has been groomed, wisely so, to be seen as a unifier, rather than one who speaks only for the hurt of black people," Farrakhan said.
When Obama marched on Washington with Farrakhan last decade, he said blacks turn to "black nationalism whenever we have a sense, as we do now, that white Americans couldn't care less about the profound problems African-Americans are facing."
He added they have to be smart about how they protest and go about reforming the system. "Cursing out white folks is not going to get the job done," he said. "We've got some hard nuts-and-bolts organizing and planning to do."
His mild-mannered style has thrown off even some angry black radicals, who want him to speak out more forcefully about the legacy of U.S. racism and economic inequality.
One is Princeton professor Cornel West, a militant black and self-described socialist. Reportedly, West was reluctant to join the refined Obama's presidential campaign until Obama took him aside and explained to him that he had to walk a rhetorical tightrope to reassure whites. West is now solidly on board his campaign as an adviser.
West, along with Wright and Cone, has argued for reparations for blacks. Obama seemed to sow the grounds for such a case in his Philadelphia speech.
"So many of the disparities that exist in the African-American community today can be directly traced to inequalities passed on from an earlier generation that suffered under the brutal legacy of slavery and Jim Crow," he said. "We still haven't fixed them."
He added, "That history helps explain the wealth and income gap between black and white."
Trinity's mission statement calls for "economic parity." Such anti-capitalist views are reflected in Obama's rhetoric and proposals.
Rated the most liberal member in the Senate, Obama wants to soak the most productive members of society and subsidize those who are not. He wants to hit small businesses and big corporations alike with major tax hikes — singling out for special rebuke oil producers and "Wall Street predators" who have "tricked" blacks out of their homes. At the same time, he plans to expand the welfare state with massive increases in domestic spending.
"We have more work to do," he told black graduates at Howard University last September. "It's time to seek a new dawn of justice in America. . . . We can right wrongs we see in America."
Cone says he wants to see a "new system" in America "in which people have the distribution of wealth." He adds, "I don't know how quite to do that institutionally."
Enter a Harvard-educated lawyer and Southside Chicago-trained community organizer who has a real shot at institutional power. As Obama promised black graduates at Hampton University last June, "We're going to usher in a new America."
Sounds like a Trojan horse. Will traditional America let it in?
1. Wright is a reverend not running for predident.
2. Obama is apparently running to change the world. With our tax dollars. Obama is definately a socialist. How is Obama a stealth socialist. Seems pretty obvious to me.
3. Do you shop at black owned business or do you generally only shop at white owned businesses. If you are white and only shop at white owned businesses would that make you a support of white liberation? I support black people in Flint being able to start home businesses. Would that make me a supporter of black liberatino theology?
4. The criminal justice system does seem to do a much "better" job of targeting blacks.
5. Either way Al Qaeda appears to be heading for victory because we are heading towards bankruptcy.
6. The U.S. government helps kill 100's if not thousands of times more Americans per year than were lost on 911. |
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How is Obama a stealth socialist.
Try asking him if he is and see what kind of preplanned response you get. Tell us barack are you as big a lib socialist marxist inspired leftist that your record makes you out to be? 
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4. The criminal justice system does seem to do a much "better" job of targeting blacks.
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Sat May 17, 2008 11:28 am |
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That article is poorly written and poorly argued. Fortunately, I think most people can see it for what it is: a scare tactic.
Obama is not going to take this country off a rail, Bushie has done that all by himself. All Obama can do is clean up the mess.
So yes, I do still want him. And his illegitimate love child. |
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Mon May 19, 2008 8:33 am |
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| I'm scared of both Obama and Mccain. Either way I think our nation is going to go bankrupt. McCain will help bankrupt us overseas whereas Obama is trying to bankrupt us overseas and here at home. Obama might bankrupt us faster but either way we are screwed. I'm hoping Mike Gravel is on the Libertarian ticket this November. |
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Mon May 19, 2008 8:55 am |
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I would imagine most Baracko supporters would find it poorly written and scary to boot since its all true. As far as you having his illegitimate love child Michelle the belle may have something to say about that. Shes a pretty big gal.  By the way what ever happened to your support of Ron Paul who is every bit the opposite of Barcko. H. Obama  |
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Mon May 19, 2008 8:57 am |
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I support aspects of both. It's too late for Ron Paul, though.
I don't know why you're so "scared" of him. What can be worse than what we're going through NOW?
Neither one of them will bankrupt us. Rather, they'll be unable to stop the bankruptcy that Bush has led us into.
twotap, I'm beginning to suspect you're one of those dudes who pulls out every reason in the world to hate him, but it boils down to race. Can you dispel this for me? |
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Mon May 19, 2008 9:14 am |
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| Well the fact is hes the biggest liberal to run for prez that I can remember. check his record and comments for reassurance. Hows that? As far as racist feelings ill leave that up to the experts in that field the Democrat party. By the way if Alan keyes , Condi rice or Clarence Thomas (peopleI support by the way) happen to run for prez would you find it in your non racist demeanor to support them and if not why??? |
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Mon May 19, 2008 9:27 am |
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| I had Glenn beck on the radio this morning - yeah, I know.... He said that Michael Moore is worried that Obama may be too liberal. |
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Pushing buttons sure can be fun.
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Mon May 19, 2008 10:20 am |
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| Glenn Beck, a common sense guy. As far as old Mike being worried I read where Baracko said when "He takes over Americans will no longer be able to drive their suvs, keep the temp at 72 and eat all they want when they want". I would imagine that last part of the quote is what has Mikey worried the most. |
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"If you like your current healthcare you can keep it, Period"!!
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Mon May 19, 2008 10:22 am |
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Fearmongering at its finest.
I have not a racist bone. Powell I would have supported in the past, except now he's proven to be naive and spineless.
Condi is an abomination against man.
Alan Keyes is a joke. The last white black man.
That Harold Ford dude, I'd vote for him in a second.
If Carole Moseley-Braun hadn't been corrupt, I would've followed her for a long time.
For that matter, I would elect a Muslim president. I would elect a Jewish president. I would vehemently support an atheist president.
But that's the point, I truly am looking at what I think is BEST, not what I think is PERFECT. Race and gender have the absolute least to do with it. |
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Mon May 19, 2008 11:20 am |
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Demeralda schreef:
Neither one of them will bankrupt us. Rather, they'll be unable to stop the bankruptcy that Bush has led us into.
Obama wants to pull out of Iraq and apparenlty use the money we save to support the world and then create hundreds of billions of dollars worth of new social welfare programs. McCain "only" wants to keep spending the hundreds of billions of dollars per year in Iraq. So Barrack might be the quickest route towards bankruptcy whose path started before the first Bush. |
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Mon May 19, 2008 11:40 am |
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Alan Keyes is a joke. The last white black man.
And there we have it folks, a racist comment if I ever heard one. So you have now confirmed what most folks know that ya gotta be a certain level of black to be accepted as black. If you have any inkling of white values (whatever that is) you are not acceptable in the black community but us racist white folks are supposed to accept a candidate just cause he happens to be black(well half black in Obamas case) regardless where he stands on whats important to us. If we dont we are immediately deemed RACIST.
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Condi is an abomination against man.
Really, what does that matter? Using your Obama logic as a white person you must support her or you are quite simply Racist and anti feminist to boot. What she stands for whats she has said her past record who she hangs with not relevant she is black and female and as such must be without reserve supported. Hey ya cant have it both ways.  |
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Mon May 19, 2008 11:56 am |
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twotap, that's one of your dumbest posts EVER.
I didn't say that you don't support Obama because he's black. I said it was starting to seem that way. I asked you to tell me a black person you WOULD support. You avoided this, and instead made a puerile attempt to put it back on me.
There's nothing racist about what I said. It's a joke. Many a person is called "the whitest black guy", a la Bill Clinton: "the first black president in America." This is not a judgment on the quality of his color, it's a comment on his political bent.
I didn't say I would support ANY BLACK MAN for office just because he's black. There's no way I would ever support Clarence Thomas, for example. The opposite of an opposite doesn't prove anything.
Condi doesn't know shit about the world except Russia. That's all she was qualified to do when they "hired" her, and she's been a total failure. I don't need her color to decide that, nor to support her.
When you actually come up with a reasonable example that's not just race-baiting, you let me know. I tried to ask you a sincere question -- obviously it was just TOO MUCH TO ASK. I won't bother again.
Your whole "GOTCHA"-type post, coupled with willfill ignorance at what I said (I would joke about race either way because I'm not afraid to!!), seems to indicate a desperation to do ANYTHING to divert the attention from yourself... which ultimately leads me to believe that you are mortified at wearing the label yourself. Maybe it hits a little too close to home? |
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Mon May 19, 2008 1:47 pm |
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I asked you to tell me a black person you WOULD support.
Demeralda thats one of your dumbest posts ever.  In your haste to respond did you by chance gloss over the examples of Condi, Clarence Thomas, Alan keyes???? Oh ya in case you have not noticed half the Dem party aint supporting Barako either. |
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