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andi03
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Hey, I resemble that remark......Christian Libturd.......Smile

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Every time I hear someone defend or deny corporate dominance I think of this guy:


When I hear of corporate dominance I think of liberal cities like Flint that help protect corporate dominance. If every city in America was like Flint over the entire American workforce would be in serious danger of losing their jobs. http://www.usfranchisenews.com/Articles/Featured/Entrepreneurial_Excerpt_from_a_Speech_to_Small_Business_200509151115/

I say all Americans would risk losing their jobs because in addition to helping to protect us from small business as well as big businesses with extreme anti-business zoning ordinances ad high taxes. We also protect against home businesses from turning into small businesses through our home business ordinance which protects against home business activity.

Under your logic I guess this could make sense though because big businesses get there start from home or small businesses so we could help prevent all big corporations from ever starting if every city in America was run like Flint Michigan.

In addition with our high taxes we could help put even big corporations out of business so I can see how liberalism and protecting against corporate dominance could come together.

Although this may sound foreign to you because you may not believe in economics the main problem is not corporate dominance the problem is protection from competition which places like Flint help protect in addition to liberal laws and regulations at the state and national level.

As an example it's illegal for you to make an electric car and drive it on the street.
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Call me weird but I think that we are going through a phase like we did with industrialization, many moons ago....the parallels are there, just in a different time.....plane.....I'll quit rambling.

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I have nothing against small businesses. I have nothing against home businesses. People have to eat and they know they can't count on other people to feed them. Get a job, right? What's that? No jobs. Be an Entrepreneur? Spell it. I just wanted the other half of your sandwich. My investors won't let me give it to you. It's much too valuable to just give it to you. Were you going to eat it? No I wasn't going to eat it. How's that business plan coming along? Make me an offer. I'll plant 10 trees in your yard for that half a sandwich. How about $7.15? How much is the sandwich? My investors are now telling me they want to eat it. Later.

Do-dah. Anyway, yes, I have a serious problem with psychopath corporations who ravage people and the planet without a flinch, a lick of accountability or even acknowledgment of the disasters they unleash on humanity and the environment by people too distracted or comfy to admit the obvious. Rather, the chamber of commerce, the Republican party, and indoctrinated citizens the world over bow to their logos, pay tithes to their tills and lift their eyes to the penthouses hoping that our prayers will be answered by little greedy men. Or that they'll let us join their club if we act enough like them.

Excuse the rant. What's your problem with Flint liberals again, Adam? Embarassed

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Good thing we have forum members to keep us informed as to just who is selling out the US. for their own interests, damn Republicans of course, whoops wait a minute. Laughing

Democrats Sell Out on Trade

By Amy Goodman, King Features Syndicate. Posted May 23, 2007.

The Democratic Party leadership is stabbing its base in the back with secret "free trade" deals made behind closed doors with the White House. Now congressional Democrats may be on the verge of a significant split. While Democratic leaders and President Bush do the hard sell on bipartisan immigration reform, they are now pushing secret, anti-worker, anti-environment trade agreements that will only exacerbate U.S. immigration problems.

The contentious agreements are bilateral trade deals between the U.S. and Peru, Panama, Colombia and South Korea. The deals were announced in a bipartisan press conference May 10, with principal credit going to Rep. Charles Rangel, D-N.Y., the chair of the House Ways and Means Committee (long dubbed by some as the "Ways to be Mean" Committee). According to Inside U.S. Trade, as noted by blogger David Sirota, House Democrats admit that the White House is drafting the legal language of the trade deals.

Rick MacArthur, publisher of Harper's Magazine and author of the book "The Selling of 'Free Trade': NAFTA, Washington, and the Subversion of American Democracy," calls these agreements "a fundraising gambit by the House leadership."

He told me: "Rangel and [Speaker Nancy] Pelosi are saying, 'Well, we're gearing up for the 2008 election. We've got to raise a lot of money.' They're closer to the Clinton wing of the party, which is the pro-so-called-free-trade wing of the party, the pro-NAFTA, pro-permanent-normal-trade-relations-with-China part of the party. And this is a way of saying to the corporate community -- Wall Street, Wal-Mart -- that we're open for business, we want to raise money from you." In order to compete for campaign money, the logic goes, the Democrats have to cater to big corporate donors.

MacArthur points out that the agreements with the four small countries are not key. The big money, he says, lies with China. This is where Hillary Clinton comes in. She served on the Wal-Mart board of directors for six years when her husband was the governor of Arkansas (where Wal-Mart is based). Wal-Mart, MacArthur says, "depends on dedicated factories in China, where you cannot form a labor union. Wildcat strikes are met with violence. You get your head busted or you get thrown in jail."

The corporate Democrats and their Republican allies are promising labor and environmental protections. But 13 years after NAFTA passed, with President Clinton orchestrating pork-barrel payouts to buy the vote, promised safeguards have proved unenforceable: Workers, especially in Mexico, earn low wages with little or no security, while companies crush union-organizing efforts and pollute with impunity. As jobs move to Mexico, China and other low-wage havens, the U.S. is the loser. Sen. Sherrod Brown, D-Ohio, knows it all too well: "We see that kind of job loss in the thousands ... devastates communities. It hurts the local business owner, the drugstore, the grocery store, the neighborhood restaurant. It hurts communities. It hurts schools. It hurts police forces. It hurts fire departments."

Sen. Russ Feingold, D-Wis., also slammed the trade deals, saying it was as if "the foxes and wolves had reached a deal on guarding the henhouse." He went on: "I wish I could lay the blame at the feet of our colleagues in the other party. But members of both parties have aided and abetted these flawed policies."

Feingold pointed out that the trade deals have not been endorsed by any union or environment groups, but they have been endorsed by three of the most powerful organizations representing corporate interests: the Business Roundtable, the National Association of Manufacturers and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce.

If the Washington power brokers are betting on Americans not understanding or caring about arcane trade policy, they should recall the Battle of Seattle. In late 1999, when the World Trade Organization tried to meet in Seattle to impose global corporate trade policies, it was met by tens of thousands of protesters, from Teamsters to environmentalists, healthcare workers to students to farmworkers. The meetings were shut down. Compound this potential backlash with the millions of hardworking immigrants now staring down the barrel of another bipartisan agreement. These are the people who took to the streets in the millions last year.

When the rules are rigged to allow money to move freely across borders, then people will follow. Falling wages south of the border, caused by "free trade," drive people north -- no matter how high the wall or how many detention facilities are built to contain them. Make no mistake about it -- trade and immigration are linked.


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And of course we cant forget all the power brokers funneling money to this guy out of the goodness of their heartand expecting nothing in return. Laughing Laughing


Obama's fundraisers include big fish
By Mike Dorning and John McCormick | Tribune staff reporters
July 26, 2007
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Digg Del.icio.us Facebook Fark Google Newsvine Reddit Yahoo Print Reprints Post comment Text size: WASHINGTON - Even as Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama has promoted a large following of small-dollar contributors representing ordinary Americans, his campaign has built an old-school political fundraising machine that relies heavily on the wealthy and the powerful, including a Chicago-based hedge fund manager who earned $1.4 billion last year.

The network of fundraisers generating money for the Illinois senator's campaign includes a heavy representation of attorneys at well-connected law firms and members of the financial industry, including highly paid managers of hedge funds and private equity funds whose lofty compensations have recently generated public controversy.

The Obama campaign is hardly unique in depending upon fundraisers drawn from the nation's financial elite to gather the resources for a presidential bid. Major presidential candidates-- including Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-N.Y.), former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney and former New York Mayor Rudolph Giuliani--have developed networks of fundraisers, with the financial industry and legal profession providing a deep well of money for both political parties.

But the Obama fundraising operation provides a contrast to an image that the campaign has ceaselessly cultivated as a movement powered by everyday Americans.

Among the high-level fundraisers on a list that the Obama campaign posted on its Web site late Tuesday is Kenneth Griffin, head of the Chicago-based hedge fund Citadel Investment Group LLC and among Mayor Richard Daley's top financial patrons. Griffin's $1.4 billion pay in 2006 made him the second highest-paid hedge fund manager in the country, according to Institutional Investor's Alpha Magazine.

Though it is unclear how much Griffin has raised for Obama, employees of his firm have donated at least $169,000, according to the Center for Responsive Politics, a nonpartisan watchdog group.

The Obama campaign disclosed the names of 120 major fundraisers who had attracted at least $50,000 in contributions to Obama by June 30 through their appeals to friends, family and business associates. Together with a list released at the end of the first quarter, the campaign has identified 260 people who have raised that amount or more.

Half the fundraisers live in just three metropolitan regions that are seats of financial or political power: Washington, New York and Chicago. Obama's home base of Chicago accounts for the largest proportion of the large fundraisers, about a fifth, according to a Tribune analysis.

Along with many corporate executives, the newly disclosed Obama fundraisers include a smattering of entertainment industry figures. Lawrence Bender, co-producer of Al Gore's "An Inconvenient Truth" and most of Quentin Tarantino's movies, is on the list. So is Hollywood agent Ari Emanuel, brother of Rep. Rahm Emanuel (D-Ill.) and the model for the Ari Gold character on HBO's "Entourage." Fox Filmed Entertainment Chairman Thomas Rothman and BET President and CEO Debra Lee also are among them.

Those major fundraisers, sometimes called bundlers, have an outsized importance in financing the campaign.

Though it is impossible to know exactly how much of the $58 million Obama raised during the first half of the year came by way of bundlers, those on the list would not be there if they had not raised at least $50,000. That means at least $13 million of his year-to-date total came through bundlers, and the total is probably much higher.

Despite the media attention the campaign has grabbed by attracting 258,000 donors—in many cases people of modest means who have given over the Internet—a much smaller group of large donors provides most of the funds for the campaign. And those large donors are best tapped through fundraisers who can call on networks of acquaintances and business associates who can easily write big checks.

The bundlers are crucial to raising money for a presidential primary campaign because federal law limits individuals to contributions of no more than $2,300 per candidate.

Sixty percent of the Obama campaign's funds come from people who have given at least $1,000, the kind of donors who are most often recruited by bundlers. Less than 30 percent of his contributions came from people who gave less than $200.

Clinton relies even more heavily on large-dollar donations for her campaign. Earlier this month, the New York senator identified 212 major fundraisers, which she calls HillRaisers. But she only identifies bundlers who have reached a higher threshold of contributions, $100,000.

Campaigns are not legally required to identify their fundraisers, only their contributors.

Obama's campaign theme of reform has left him open to criticism of his fundraising operation. On the campaign trail, he regularly criticizes the influence of established special interests in shaping national policy and promotes a pledge he has made not to accept contributions from federal lobbyists.

In a Democratic debate this week, former Sen. Mike Gravel of Alaska argued that Obama's disavowal of lobbyist contributions is less than pure because he still has wealthy executives who employ lobbyists raising money for him.

Gravel singled out Obama fundraiser, Robert Wolf, America's chairman for Swiss-based UBS Investment Bank, which Gravel criticized as "a foreign-owned bank" with "lobbyists in Washington." Employees of UBS have given at least $142,000 to the Obama campaign.

Obama's fundraisers include many other financial industry executives. At least 17 of his major fundraisers are managers at either hedge funds or private equity funds, two loosely regulated financial service sectors that recently have stirred political controversy because of the soaring pay of fund managers and a legal loophole that allows them to pay lower tax rates on their earnings.

Obama and his major Democratic rivals, Clinton and former Sen. John Edwards of North Carolina, have only recently said they would back proposed legislation that would remove the tax break for hedge funds and private equity companies that convert to publicly traded corporations.

Among the hedge fund managers raising money for Obama is Paul Tudor Jones, founder of Tudor Investment Corp., known for throwing lavish parties, including a Christmas party that featured the Radio City Rockettes. Jones hosted a fundraiser for Obama at his home in Greenwich, Conn.

Obama spokeswoman Jen Psaki said the resources generated by major fundraisers does not diminish the importance of the campaign's small-dollar donors.

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I have nothing against small businesses. I have nothing against home businesses. People have to eat and they know they can't count on other people to feed them. Get a job, right? What's that? No jobs. Be an Entrepreneur? Spell it. I just wanted the other half of your sandwich. My investors won't let me give it to you. It's much too valuable to just give it to you. Were you going to eat it? No I wasn't going to eat it. How's that business plan coming along? Make me an offer. I'll plant 10 trees in your yard for that half a sandwich. How about $7.15? How much is the sandwich? My investors are now telling me they want to eat it. Later.

Do-dah. Anyway, yes, I have a serious problem with psychopath corporations who ravage people and the planet without a flinch, a lick of accountability or even acknowledgment of the disasters they unleash on humanity and the environment by people too distracted or comfy to admit the obvious. Rather, the chamber of commerce, the Republican party, and indoctrinated citizens the world over bow to their logos, pay tithes to their tills and lift their eyes to the penthouses hoping that our prayers will be answered by little greedy men. Or that they'll let us join their club if we act enough like them.

Excuse the rant. What's your problem with Flint liberals again, Adam? Embarassed

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It's that they know so much that isn't true. Maybe before you criticize the greedy corporations you should stop being so greedy.

If corporations weren't so greedy you would be a lot poorer.

I have no problem with responsibility. People and corporations should be held responsible for their actions.

Did you hear what happened to the pilgrims that weren't greedy? They starved and died. Then they resorted to "evil" "greedy" capitalism and flourished. We should learn from the pilgrims.
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Why tax everyone? I'd feel fine about repealing Bush's tax cut for the richest 1%. I'd feel fine about bringing corporate taxes back to where they were in the 50s. I'd feel fine about adding Hummers and diamonds to the sin tax list. Or does this violate your discrimination sensibilities? I'd argue that it would be the epitome of economic justice.

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We can do things cheaper for ourselves and the world or let china and india do it. If we let china and india do it cheaper they will.


Sorry. You can't discount and cost cut and union bust and pension steal and health care slash and raise freeze and wage reduce and higher ed gate-keep and dig a slow hole to China and McManage yourself into a higher standard of living, better quality of life and brighter future for all Americans. That's how we ended up with the economic disparity (discrimination) we have now.


Would you feel fine about stalling job creation? Don't "poorer" middle class people also buy hummers (before $3 gas) and diamond rings or are hard-working middle class americans too rich for you?

You should study capitalism. It's pretty amazing the results it can produce. Liberal reasoning although interesting is pretty senseless when compared to reality.

Your a little misguiding on our ability to compete. With our dollar collapsing from the effects of interventionism and socialism we are rapidly regaining our ability to compete.

If corporations and individuals didn't have to bear the effects of liberal socialism prices would be cheaper and wages could go higher and wages would effectively be higher because the goverment wouldn't steal so much money from hard working american families. Maybe american families wouldn't need unions if the government didn't make hem pay more for their goods and services and steal so much of their money.

The ironic thing is when you steal less money from people they typically spend or invest it which then creates more jobs and prosperity.
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Did you hear what happened to the pilgrims that weren't greedy? They starved and died. Then they resorted to "evil" "greedy" capitalism and flourished. We should learn from the pilgrims.



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Would you believe it if we told you that the U.S. House of Representatives voted to raise the price you pay for gasoline at the pump and -- at the same time -- give a huge tax break to that America-hating dictator Hugo Chavez?

Well, that is exactly what our so-called elected leaders -- led by Speaker Nancy Pelosi and her liberal colleagues in the House -- just did.

In common parlance, we call that a "twofer" and as unbelievable as it may sound, Pelosi and company have yet again proved that they have never met a socialist tyrannical despot that they did not like!

Here's what happened.

Last week, the House passed H.R. 5351, a bill that will jack up the prices that you and I pay at the pump for gasoline through the imposition of an $18 billion dollar tax increase!

Then they turned around and EXEMPTED HUGO CHAVEZ'S STATE-RUN OIL COMPANY, CITGO, FROM THE TAX!

Investor's Business Daily put it this way in an editorial on Friday titled, "Tax Cut for Hugo:"

"It goes to show that Congress is more willing to empower dictators than to get serious about America's energy supply."

You remember Hugo Chavez. He's the mouth-foaming dictator of Venezuela who came to New York City not too long ago and called the President of the United States "El Diablo" (Translation: "The Devil").

Here's exactly what he said when speaking at the United Nations:

"And the devil came here yesterday. Yesterday the devil came here. Right here. [performs the sign of the cross] And it smells of sulfur still today."

"Yesterday, ladies and gentlemen, from this rostrum, the President of the United States, the gentleman to whom I refer as the devil, came here, talking as if he owned the world. Truly. As the owner of the world.

"I think we could call a psychiatrist to analyze yesterday's statement made by the President of the United States. As the spokesman of imperialism, he came to share his nostrums, to try to preserve the current pattern of domination, exploitation and pillage of the peoples of the world ." [Emphasis Mine]

And Pelosi and company have basically bestowed favor upon this anti-American dictator and they're bestowing this favor on the backs of American businesses and average American taxpayers like you and me.

We must act quickly... and act together... to stop this ridiculous legislation before Pelosi's liberal colleagues try to sneak it through the Senate.

Use the hyperlink below to send your urgent and personalized 50 Blast Fax messages to President George W. Bush and the 49 Republican Members of the United States Senate.

Tell them in no uncertain terms that the American people do NOT want tax breaks to go into the greasy pockets of that tyrannical America-hating despot Hugo Chavez. Time is of the essence because Pelosi's liberal allies and fellow travelers in the Senate may try to fast-track this bill to avoid a filibuster.

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There Is Not A Moment To Lose!

Monisha Bansal of CNS News tells us: "Senate Democratic leaders have indicated they would fast-track the bill to try to avoid a Republican filibuster."

That's why there's not a moment to lose!

Meanwhile, Chavez is traveling all over the world, schmoozing with the leaders of anti-American nations like Iran and Russia.

More than one observer has suggested that Chavez is delusional, seeing himself as Simon Bolivar, who, in the early 19th century, liberated much of South America from the rule of Spain.

But the truth is: Chavez -- not just a cruel clown -- is more like Hitler or Stalin than Bolivar.

Here's a short biography of Hugo Chavez:

Leading a leftist-militarist faction, he attempted to overthrow the government in 1992 , failed, and ended up in prison. Six years later he was elected president of Venezuela.

Once in office, he began the systematic repression of any and all opposition.

He has thrown dissenters into prison, and ordered others shot. Even Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International have condemned his regime.

When the newspapers, radio, and TV began to criticize him, he 'nationalized' them.

Now editors and reporters in Venezuela work for Chavez and either praise him or keep their mouths shut out of fear.

Most recently Chavez launched a referendum that would have allowed him to remain Dictator for life.

Chavez is also wildly anti-Semitic and frequently unleashes hysterical diatribes against Israel and the Jewish people.

He even disturbs the New York Times, which once hailed Fidel Castro's ascension as a triumph of democracy and agrarian reform.

Pelosi and company's H.R. 5351 will yield Chavez an incomprehensible amount of money -- courtesy of American taxpayers -- which he can use to build dungeons for political prisoners and buy bullets for firing squads.

And perhaps for something even much more chilling... Read on.

Use the hyperlink below to send your urgent and personalized 50 Blast Fax messages to President George W. Bush and the 49 Republican Members of the United States Senate.

Tell them in no uncertain terms that the American people do NOT want tax breaks to go into the greasy pockets of that tyrannical America-hating despot Hugo Chavez. Time is of the essence because Pelosi's liberal allies and fellow travelers in the Senate may try to fast-track this bill to avoid a filibuster.

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But That's Not The Worst Part...

If liberals in Congress were living under the idiotic delusion that Chavez was a benign figure when they passed this legislation, they could hardly maintain that delusion after Monday's news.

The events speak for themselves.

For more than 40 years, Colombia's legitimate government has been fighting a group calling itself the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC) -- the military arm of the Colombian Communist Party.

FARC supports itself by drug dealing and smuggling, extortion and kidnapping.

It is classified as a terrorist organization by the United States and other civilized nations. But Hugo Chavez and his friend Rafael Correa -- president of Ecuador -- regard FARC as their ally in their great war against the United States of America.

On Saturday, Colombian military forces pursued FARC's second in command, Raul Reyes, into Ecuador and killed him and at least 16 of his men -- the biggest defeat in FARC's history.

This news sent Hugo Chavez off the deep end.

He strutted and postured before the press, sounding just like what he is -- a banana-Republic dictator -- a character out of a Hollywood farce.

On Sunday, during his weekly radio address he bellowed:

"Mr. Defense Minister, move 10 battalions to the border with Colombia for me, immediately -- tank battalions. Deploy the air force. We don't want war, but we aren't going to permit the U.S. empire, which is the master [of Colombia] ... to come divide us." [Emphasis Mine]

Addressing the president of Columbia he said:

"This could be the start of a war in South America. If it occurs to you to do this in Venezuela, President Uribe, I'll send some Sukhois." [warplanes the Russians recently sold to Chavez]

Now you might be tempted to laugh at this posturing, but there's more to this story.

It seems that the Colombians confiscated Reyes's computer and found evidence that Rafael Correa's Ecuadorian government had been conspiring with FARC to launch operations as yet undisclosed.

By Monday evening, TV networks were carrying a more disturbing story: Columbian's had captured documents revealing that Hugo Chavez had given FARC $300 million.

Question: Where would the dictator of a starving country get that kind of money?

Answer: Oil revenues.

Now you see why Pelosi and company's H.R. 5351 is a betrayal of our country and why it has to be stopped!

You have the power to stop this bill in the Senate RIGHT NOW!

Use the hyperlink below to send your urgent and personalized 50 Blast Fax messages to President George W. Bush and the 49 Republican Members of the United States Senate.

Tell them in no uncertain terms that the American people do NOT want tax breaks to go into the greasy pockets of that tyrannical America-hating despot Hugo Chavez. Time is of the essence because Pelosi's liberal allies and fellow travelers in the Senate may try to fast-track this bill to avoid a filibuster.

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Some Leaders Are Disgusted.

At least some Republican leaders are disgusted by Pelosi and company's willingness to pass a law guaranteed to feed both inflation at the pump and Hugo Chavez's appetite for power.

House Minority Leader John Boehner said:

"Middle-class families and small businesses are feeling the squeeze from rising costs for gasoline, food, and other costs of living..."

"[H.R. 5351] actually carves out tax breaks for Venezuelan dictator Hugo Chavez -- courtesy of American taxpayers. This is unacceptable, and the Democratic leadership is irresponsible for bringing the bill to the House floor.

"I am disappointed that the Majority voted down a Republican proposal to eliminate the tax relief for Hugo Chavez and give it to those who need it most: middle-class American families."

This bill is a giant step in the wrong direction; and as an extra twist of the knife, Pelosi and Company are deliberately trying to give Chavez a big edge and are making hard-working U.S. taxpayers foot the bill.

If we don't kill this bill, it may cost us more than the tax revenues Pelosi and her colleagues will spend on boondoggles and pork before the lightning bugs show up this summer.

The Senate may take up this bill at any time. You and I can beat this obscene legislation -- if we act immediately.

Use the hyperlink below to send your urgent and personalized 50 Blast Fax messages to President George W. Bush and the 49 Republican Members of the United States Senate.

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I was talking about this and not them killing indians. http://www.nbizz.com/chrmcclung/listings/112.html
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