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Ponycar
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Public D, This is what the media don't want you to remember. I do.
Last time here, War for profit ? no, thats what the liberals want you to believe. How conveient it is for them to flip flop now. I do give Obama credit though, his views have remained unchanged since the start.
Demeralda, Wouldn't it be easier for you to just hit your back browser if you don't like whats posted instead of getting ugly and rude? You obviously "wasted your time" on your own free will by reading this.I'm sure noone made you read it. If it makes you feel better, I did check this one out, and it's 100% factual. I respect anything you have to say and your right to say it. Just be nice.
"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
- President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998
"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
- President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998
"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
- Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998
"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983." S
- Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998
"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
- Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998
"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
- Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998
"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999
"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has invigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
- Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, December 5, 2001
"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandated of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them."
- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002
"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002
"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002
"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002
"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002
"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force-- if necessary-- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002
"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002
"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do" Rep.
- Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002
"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weap ons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members .. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002
"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002
"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ..."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003
SO NOW THE DEMOCRATS SAY PRESIDENT BUSH LIED, THAT THERE NEVER WERE ANY WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION AND HE TOOK US TO WAR FOR HIS OIL BUDDIES??? |
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Tue Feb 12, 2008 2:29 pm |
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twotap
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Libs have short memorys or run around with blinders on when the facts get in the way of there agendas.  |
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Tue Feb 12, 2008 3:10 pm |
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Ponycar
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Right on 2 tap. The same liberals that also voted to send our troops to war turned around and voted to cut funding for it. Some such as Harry Reid voted to go to war, and then demorolized our troops by telling them"the war is lost".
For the dumbest president in history ( as the libs call him) he sure outwitted all of them smart democrats by lying didn't he? |
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Tue Feb 12, 2008 3:39 pm |
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Demeralda
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Everyone's a "lib" who doesn't agree. Always with the labels. Almost funny.
And no, I don't want to just hit the back button. I want to stop reading lies posing as the truth.
What does it prove that people regurgitated the exact same line they were fed? NOTHING.
On another note, twotap, a written article posted somewhere is different than a chain letter. Pretty much the only place you can find the drivel such as the this thread-opener is in your inbox, or at snopes - and it's rarely attributed. Someone makes it up, pastes stuff together, and then spams the rest of us. I'm not asking someone to fact check an article in the Washington Post, for chrissakes.
If Snopes says the status is multiple, then SORRY - that means it is NOT 100% TRUE.
All those quotes are just another form of annoying, as the only thing they show is that people believed the intelligence lies. Everyone in America knows that by now. However, it's still better than that other perpetuation of lies. And this is like the third or fourth time your posts have not been checked.
Not ugly, just.... irritated. |
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Tue Feb 12, 2008 4:43 pm |
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twotap
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Demeralda never called You a lib. But liberals are out there. All those Quotes from all those libs is what I was referring to I know the original post was bogus..
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And this is like the third or fourth time your posts have not been checked.
Why do MY posts need checked??? |
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Tue Feb 12, 2008 5:20 pm |
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Ponycar
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Well now Demeralda, what does the almighty snopes say about my last "perpetuation of lies" as you call it ? When I checked it said true, but I don't need snopes to tell me that. Take it from someone who has been places, seen things, and privey to info that most people are not. Saddam had WMD,s in the form of nuclear proliferation, chemical, and biological weapons. You don't even have to listen to the "intel lies" to know that. Just look at the timeline. In the early 1980's Israel took out Saddams nuclear reactor. Why, because he was trying to make nukes. Saddam also used chemical weapons ( nerve and blister agents)during the Iraq, Iran war, and also used them on the Kurdish population in northern Iraq. Thats why we had to enforce a no fly zone over northern Iraq ( which Saddam violated during the ceasefire by positioning antiaircraft batteries on the ground within the no fly zone to shoot down coaltion aircraft enforceing it,believe me we were fired on every day).By the way, those were my own words, not spam, chainletter, or quotes.
If someone post's something on here that I don't want to read. I don't read it. You have the same option. But I respect your opinion and I would never disrespect a poster on here if they don't agree with me. What a boring site flinttalk would be if everyone on here always agreed with each other. |
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Tue Feb 12, 2008 5:38 pm |
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aw man please.......wonder who SOLD the chemical weapons to him??
duh..... |
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Tue Feb 12, 2008 6:41 pm |
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Demeralda
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I don't mind disagreement and discussion, and that's what I come here for.
All I'm asking is to not post phony chain-mail, ok? Is that so much to ask?
You quoted a bunch of stuff. Big whoop. It doesn't prove anything, yet again. I didn't call that the perpetuation of lies - they're quotes. I very specifically said the thing that started this thread was, and it IS.
Afraid of snopes, are you?
And the comment about fact-checking was not for you, twotap. You know that  We already know what you're full of, haha!
And thanks for rescinding the "lib" label. |
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Wed Feb 13, 2008 11:09 am |
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Public D
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Poneycar writes:
"Take it from someone who has been places, seen things, and privey to info that most people are not."
Well, that settles it. Poneycar, because he is privy to information not suited for the larger public, knows (or knew?) precisely where the WMDs are! How 'bout that!? I assume he will do the right thing, his patriotic duty, and head directly to Iraq to show the Coalition of the Willing exactly where the cache is stashed. Thanks, Poneycar! Wish you would've spoke up before hundreds of thousands had to die, but better late than never I always say.
PS: When you get back from Iraq, and after a much-deserved rest and parade, would you mind using your special clearance, insider information and well-honed tracking skills to find Bin Laden?
Thank you in advanced! |
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Wed Feb 13, 2008 11:27 am |
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twotap
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quote:
And thanks for rescinding the "lib" label.
Anything to help. |
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Wed Feb 13, 2008 11:30 am |
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ouch!!!!  |
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Wed Feb 13, 2008 11:30 am |
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Demeralda
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Well put, PD.
I've always resented that sort of argument. How does anyone know what I've seen or where I've been?
I might have to get my Mossad buddies over here to deal with this!
Except, of course, what I've told you. Which unfortunately twotap remembers too well. One of these days someone on this board is going to know who I am and .... busted! |
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Wed Feb 13, 2008 11:58 am |
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| busted???? you sound like kwame! |
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Wed Feb 13, 2008 12:11 pm |
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twotap
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Which unfortunately twotap remembers too well.
Twotaps mind is like rock and roll it never forgets. |
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"If you like your current healthcare you can keep it, Period"!!
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Wed Feb 13, 2008 12:38 pm |
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Ponycar
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Demeralda, I think that my quotes prove a lot. it proves that the previous administration, and the prominent democrats who are in congress believed Saddam had WMD,s too. The same ones who will say Bush lied believed it while Bush was still the Governor of Texas.
Public D, I've already had my rest and parade after my 3rd deployment to the region. I've recently retired from the military. I think I've done my " patriotic duty" . |
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