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twotap
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| Yup, its their right as it is mine to avoid doing business with them. My favorite one is the Ogema county fair. What are those folks thinking? |
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I understand that its a business's right to decide whether they will allow guns in their store, but it seems to me that the good would outweight the bad. So a bank or jewelry store employee has to exercise extra caution in their job. Good. They should...
I just think of the clip on "most shocking".... because i have no life... of a bank robbery. The robber told everyone to get on the floor, and he was getting mad at the teller because she was freaking out and got ready to shoot her when an off-duty police officer pulled out his concealed weapon and shot at the guy.... and pretty much saved the tellers life and probably his own. I think the robber lived too, actually. |
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Mon Feb 11, 2008 1:06 pm |
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Demeralda
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If you object to businesses, then certainly you must feel the same about in a courthouse?
I don't think there's really any good rationale for why you should ask high-risk targets to leave themselves vulnerable to a crime. One story of an off-duty cop does not a rationale make.
I also don't think it's fair for those who work there to have to be more vulnerable because they work with so much more money.
An interesting side question: are guns allowed into casinos? |
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Mon Feb 11, 2008 2:51 pm |
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I don't think there's really any good rationale for why you should ask high-risk targets to leave themselves vulnerable to a crime.
I believe ya just answered your own question. Whos more vulnerable than unarmed businesses with unarmed unprotected relying on the goodness of their fellow humans employees and patrons???Recent events have also proven that the amount of money involved has little to do with violent crime.
As far as casinos allowing concealed carry I dont patronize them so its a mute point with me but ill guarantee theres enough firepower avaliable to handle any sitiuation. |
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Mon Feb 11, 2008 3:34 pm |
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Demeralda
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Are you proposing the solution is to arm bank tellers?
I'm saying they shouldn't have to be exposed to those customers, not that they should start an arms race. |
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Mon Feb 11, 2008 4:44 pm |
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| Have you noticed that just about every mass shooting by some nut job occurs in a
GUN FREE AREA.
These all turn out badly because of one gun too few. You are free to go about your daily business as you please thats whats great about the USA but I like many others refuse to be a victim. Cowering under a table, laying prone on the floor or being herded into the back room by some jerkoff who plans on leaving no witnesses is not the way I plan on checking out. |
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Mon Feb 11, 2008 7:15 pm |
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man.. it must be hard to enjoy life being paranoid every time you
leave your house!!! what a way to live..  |
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Mon Feb 11, 2008 7:26 pm |
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Not paranoid, prepared.  By the way LT do you have fire extinguisher in your home. If your answer is yes , are ya paranoid of a fire??  |
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Mon Feb 11, 2008 7:39 pm |
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hmmm. good point actually.....
but i don't take it with me to the mall. |
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Mon Feb 11, 2008 8:11 pm |
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[quote]man.. it must be hard to enjoy life being paranoid every time you
leave your house!!! what a way to live.. [/quote
Hmm Lt, wouldnt your active participation in a block club sort of be a sign of possible paranoia of criminal activity and the prevention there of. |
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Mon Feb 11, 2008 9:24 pm |
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no no. our meetings are about much more than worrying about
possible thuggery. picnics, barbeques, kids, safety. rarely is a
neighbor paranoid, and when it does happen, we take care of the
problem.......no problem..same way it was when i was a kid in flint
in the 50s..... |
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Mon Feb 11, 2008 9:38 pm |
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Demeralda
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Comparing a fire extinguisher to a gun is totally non sequitur. A fire extinguisher can only EVER help a situation. That is not true of guns.
You anecdotally have noticed these things happened in gun free zones. Do you have any statistics or studies to support the idea that the zone is the CAUSE of the increased violence? Or is it just happening at the same rate as every other area?
It's one thing to say gun free zones don't work; it's another to say they actually encourage violence. |
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Tue Feb 12, 2008 11:49 am |
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Well lets see if you were a sicko planning on creating a little mayhem or perhaps just an armed bandit looking for a little crack money would it not make sense to choose a place where you were less likely to face armed opposition.
http://dustinsgunblog.blogspot.com/2007/12/gun-free-zone-spoof.html
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Tue Feb 12, 2008 12:01 pm |
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Demeralda
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Honestly, no, I don't think they consider that carefully. I think it's a coincidence.
It's like asking if criminals think about the penalty before they do the crime.
Actually, the one thing I think probably does bear itself out here is the fact that it makes it a more DEADLY assault because the law-abiding or guards or staff are not prepared or armed. Okay, that I buy. But somehow I don't think the logical conclusion, then, is that everyone should be armed. Not that I'm suggesting I have the answer. What is this, the old West?
This is a tough one for me. I guess my next question would be if the weapons used in these attacks were legally obtained?
Like that kid at VA Tech, he shouldn't have been able to buy a gun (though I am aware he did so legally).
It seems to me that these random events are horrible and tragic, but so very rare statistically. And I'm guessing that these kinds of incidents are perpetrated, by and large, by people who seem "normal" and probably legally owned a gun. Conversely, I'm guessing most gun violence is in the run-of-the-mill crimes of shootings and murders that happen every day in urbania.
Overall, I wonder how many murders are committed by the former vs. the latter. |
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