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Author    Post   last time here Guest oh yeah. the black market will explode!!!! damn!!!! why'z it gotta be "black" market?? _________________ Guest post Tue Feb 05, 2008 2:05 pm  twotap F L I N T O I D I have an idea if a confiscation law is ever passed their will be such an uprising in this country their wont be enough rocks for the antigun libs to hide under. _________________ "If you like your current healthcare you can keep it, Period"!! Barack Hussein Obama--- multiple times. Tue Feb 05, 2008 2:14 pm  last time here Guest i believe that. whatever could cause something like that would have to be so huge that people would comply willingly... another 911? pearl harbor? bomb in a city? who know? _________________ Guest post Tue Feb 05, 2008 2:35 pm  Dave Starr F L I N T O I D Probably a mass killing at a mall of large gathering. Check this out.... http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs...=2008802030326 _________________ I used to care, but I take a pill for that now. Pushing buttons sure can be fun. When a lion wants to go somewhere, he doesn’t worry about how many hyenas are in the way. Paddle faster, I hear banjos. Tue Feb 05, 2008 2:40 pm  Tegan F L I N T O I D That link didn't work for me. but don't mall shootings (or church shootings) that kill a lot of people sort of give equal justification for law abiding citizens to carry concealed weapons so that they can stop a shooter before he can kill more people? Tue Feb 05, 2008 2:48 pm  twotap F L I N T O I D The antis dont like hearing reports like this. http://www.splodetv.com/more-gun-laws-more-gun-crimes _________________ "If you like your current healthcare you can keep it, Period"!! Barack Hussein Obama--- multiple times. Wed Feb 06, 2008 1:35 pm  last time here Guest Michigan's Self-Defense Act: The law allows people to use deadly force, with no duty to retreat, if they reasonably think they face imminent death, great bodily harm or sexual assault. You can use deadly force anywhere you have a legal right to be. To clarify: Carjackings, Break-ins and other potentially violent crimes, even those that occur away from your home, you can defend yourself or love ones. If you are eligible you should consider a CCW permit or some form of home protection. If you don't know a personal trainer we will recommend one for you. firejerryo.com _________________ Guest post Wed Feb 06, 2008 3:26 pm  twotap F L I N T O I D I find it quite telling that the home states of the two Dem front runners New York and Illinois restrict or deny the right of concealed carry for honest citizens. Sort of lets ya know where they are coming from. _________________ "If you like your current healthcare you can keep it, Period"!! Barack Hussein Obama--- multiple times. Wed Feb 06, 2008 3:33 pm  last time here Guest i hear what you're saying but i really don't think either one would attempt to take all weapons away.. _________________ Guest post Wed Feb 06, 2008 3:41 pm  twotap F L I N T O I D (C) Copyright 2002-2008 by Jeff Soyer All rights reserved. View stats December 11, 2006 Barack Obama For Pres? Not if my vote or voice here has anything to do with it. Obama is one of the most anti-Second Amendment legislators in the country. In his short time in in the Senate he's managed to vote FOR almost every single gun control measure that has come his way. Gun Law News has a round-up of Obama's votes and you'll notice that only in 2006 did he finally vote yea on a gun right -- that of prohibiting firearm confiscations during an emergency -- and that probably because he was trying to "moderate" his position as his name gets bandied about by the liberal loving media. More than that, this is a guy who doesn't believe that law abiding people have the right to own most handguns but it goes even further than that. According to On the Issues he would: # Ban the sale or transfer of all forms of semi-automatic weapons. # Increase state restrictions on the purchase and possession of firearms. Ban all sales or transfers of any semi-automatic firearm? That's very nearly all of them. We'd be left with some shotguns, bolt-actions, and lever guns. Now this is important because even ignoring four million NRA members, you have millions more who don't support the NRA but do own semi-automatic guns. Tens of millions if you want to know the truth. Do any of you Democrats really think these multi-millions of semi-automatic owners would vote for a guy who has stated that their guns should be banned or at least should no longer be sold or transferred? Some gun owner dies of old age and the family has to turn those guns in to the authorities? Someone needs money and can't sell his guns to a gun dealer? Your common .22 plinkers now yanked from store shelves? I guarantee that there is NO WAY someone who wants to ban all semi-automatics is going to get elected because there is NO WAY for him or her to overcome a voting block of 10-30 million semi-automatic firearms owners. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hillary Clinton: Socialist Gun-Grabber by Craig Fields Director of Internet Operations It is patently obvious that Hillary Clinton's policies are of a decidely socialist bent -- generally along the European model. America awakened to this truth as a result of the "Hillarycare" debacle during her husband's first term. Since becoming a Senator from New York, though, she has added big-government gun control to her resume. There is really little point in detailing Clinton's vote-by-vote record on the Second Amendment. That's because every single time there has been a gun-related vote in the Senate that GOA has tracked, Sen. Clinton has voted anti-gun. Without fail, she opts to restrict the rights of Americans to keep and bear firearms -- 100% of the time. So, in keeping with the socialist ideals which guide her policies in other areas, she's a dedicated gun-grabber. But the danger is far greater than that. She doesn't just vote wrong... she is an active leader in the campaign to disarm the citizenry step by step. Thus, it is far more telling to discuss what previous and upcoming restrictive legislation she cosponsors. Sponsoring bills is the hallmark of the most outspoken anti-gun leaders such as Rep. Carolyn McCarthy and Sen. Chuck Schumer. They constantly come up with new ideas to chip away at the Second Amendment and then write them into legislation. Clinton doesn't do this at all. She's too busy socializing other aspects of American life. Any legislator can write any bill he or she wants, but getting one passed is (thankfully) another story indeed. That's where cosponsorship comes into play. Telling fellow legislators "Hey, I'm with you on this... put my name on the bill, too" is Sen. Clinton's preferred course of action. The bottom line legislatively is that bills with large numbers of cosponsors stand a much greater chance of getting committee hearings, then voted out of committee, and finally scheduled for a full vote on the floor of the legislative body. Cosponsorship is important, and it identifies those (in addition to the bill's author) who are leading the charge for its passage. It is so important that the GOA rating of "F-" is reserved solely for sponsors and cosponsors of anti-gun bills -- no legislator can drop that low in any other manner, even with a 0% voting record such as Clinton's. Hillary Rodham Clinton has truly earned her F- rating. Her record of cosponsoring anti-gun initiatives reads like a Sarah Brady wish list. _________________ "If you like your current healthcare you can keep it, Period"!! Barack Hussein Obama--- multiple times. Wed Feb 06, 2008 4:08 pm  last time here Guest now come on dude!!! ain't no way this could happen. if done correctly, wouldn't congress have to allow a substantial move like this??? _________________ Guest post Wed Feb 06, 2008 5:36 pm  twotap F L I N T O I D Ya if they happen to have a majority of elected lib Dems to go along whats to stop em? Or how about Obama or Hillary signing on to the UNs world wide gun ban. _________________ "If you like your current healthcare you can keep it, Period"!! Barack Hussein Obama--- multiple times. Wed Feb 06, 2008 7:00 pm  twotap F L I N T O I D Certain businesses in Michigan have posted "No-Guns" signs indicating that persons lawfully licensed to carry concealed firearms are not welcome on their property. Although most businesses in Michigan have chosen not to post discriminatory signs against concealed pistol license holders, some have, and are listed below: This policy of denying Michigan's most upstanding and law abiding men and women the right to resist a criminal attack while shopping or doing business does not create a safe environment, as only law-abiding citizens will obey their signs. "No-Guns" signs simply mean that criminals have a lot less to worry about and may even be emboldened to commit armed criminal acts in these so-called "gun free environments". When you see a "No-Guns" signs on a retail store, restaurant, bank, credit union or taxpayer funded business, please let us know so we can warn others to shop or go elsewhere while armed. (Click on column headers to sort) Click here to submit a business to the list. Attention business owners & managers: If your business is no longer posted or you feel your listing was presented in error, please email: Webmaster@mcrgo.org. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Name (click to sort) City County Type Business Address Value City Furniture Flint Genesee Retail 4901 Fenton Road Value City Furniture Taylor Wayne Retail 23859 Eureka Road Kalsee Credit Union Portage Kalamazoo CreditUnion 7966 Lovers Lane Kalsee Credit Union Kalamazoo Kalamazoo CreditUnion 2501 Millcork St Kalsee Credit Union Kalamazoo Kalamazoo CreditUnion 316 W Mosel Ave Michigan Kenworth Grand Rapids Kent Service 7393 Expressway Ct SW Oscoda Health Park Oscoda Iosco Service 5939 Huron Road Value City Furniture Novi Oakland Retail 43610 W Oaks Dr NuUnion Credit Union Mount Pleasant Isabella CreditUnion 1011 N. Harris Street Cellular One Petoskey Emmet Retail 1151 US 31 N. Wayne Westland Federal Westland Wayne CreditUnion 500 South Wayne Road Cellular One East Tawas Iosco Retail 200 W Bay St # 3 Renaissance Festival Holly Oakland Fairground 12600 Dixie Highway NuUnion Credit Union Okemos Ingham CreditUnion 1821 Newman Rd Michigan Kenworth Grand Rapids Kent Retail US 131 Exit 75 Preferred Federal Greenville Montcalm CreditUnion 534 N. Lafayette Leppinks Food Howard Montcalm Retail 730 W Shaw St Tuesday Morning Grand Rapids Kent Retail 3343 Alpine Ave NW Dist Health Dept #2 West Branch Ogemaw Service 630 Progress St Family Health Care Baldwin Lake Service 1615 Michigan Ave Sunrise Family Credit Union Standish Arenac CreditUnion 3887 S. Huron Rd Church's Chicken Detroit Wayne Restaurant 16100 Livernois Ave Goodyear Auto Service Ctr Fort Gratiot Twp St. Clair Retail 4655 24th Avenue Jared Galleria of Jewelry Grandville Kent Retail 3610 Rivertown Pkwy SW Flint Area School Emp. C.U. Flint Genesee CreditUnion 4411 Calkins Road Taystee Bread Outlet Flint Genesee Retail 1356 W. Hill Rd NuUnion Credit Union Lansing Ingham CreditUnion 501 S Capitol Ave Touchstone Innovare Grand Rapids Kent Service 201 Sheldon Ave SE Good Shepard Credit Union Lincoln Park Wayne CreditUnion 4111 Fort Street Ferguson Enterprises Jackson Jackson Distributor 730 E. Mansion St Financial Plus Credit Union Flint Genesee CreditUnion G-3381 Van Slyke Road Valvoline Instant Oil Change Livonia Wayne Service 31151 Five Mile Rd NuUnion Credit Union Hastings Barry CreditUnion 202 E. State St United Financial Credit Union Bridgeport Saginaw CreditUnion 5658 Dixie Hwy Borgess Fitness Center Kalamazoo Kalamazoo Service 3025 Gull Road Leppinks Food Belding Ionia Retail 301 West Main Capital Community CU Greenville Montcalm CreditUnion 212 West Gibson Drive Jared Galleria of Jewelry Novi Oakland Retail 27795 Novi Rd. Jared Galleria of Jewelry Madison Heights Macomb Retail 451 W. 14 Mile Rd Jared Galleria of Jewelry Auburn Hills Oakland Retail 3960 Baldwin Rd. Jared Galleria of Jewelry Utica Macomb Retail 45011 Park Ave Tuesday Morning Clawson Oakland Retail 1159 Fourteen Mile Rd Value City Furniture Saginaw Saginaw Retail 3878 Bay Progressive Insur Svc Ctr Sterling Heights Macomb Service 40770 Mound Road Fifth Third Bank Monroe Monroe Bank 453 S. Monroe St GrayBar Electric Lansing Ingham Retail 401 Elm St Goodyear/Gemini Tire Ann Arbor Washtenaw Retail 2260 W Stadium Blvd Ogemaw County Fair West Branch Ogemaw Fairground 2300 Rifle River Trail Midland Sport & Spine Midland Midland Service 424 W Wackerly St American Red Cross Svc Ctr Livonia Wayne Service 36650 5 Mile Rd GrayBar Electric Flint Genesee Retail 2424 Kansas Ave United Financial Credit Union Saginaw Saginaw CreditUnion 4685 State St Meridian Mall Okemos Ingham Retail 1982 W.Grand River Cellular One Cadillac Wexford Retail 811 N. Mitchell Tuesday Morning Kentwood Kent Retail 3534 Lake Eastbrook Blvd Value City Furniture Lansing Ingham Retail 800 S Waverly Road Ferguson Enterprises Saginaw Saginaw Distributor 3944 Fortune Blvd Gibraltar Trade Center Taylor Wayne Retail 15525 Racho Rd Sunrise Family CU Bay City Bay CreditUnion 404 S Euclid Consumers Concrete Corp Lansing Ingham Service 1367 Lake Lansing Rd Value City Furniture Warren Macomb Retail 29134 Van Dyke Ave Brandon Township Library Ortonville Oakland Library 304 South St Star Theater Holland Ottawa MovieTheater 12270 James St Alltel Big Rapids Mecosta Retail 840 S State Street Bennigan's Restaurant Big Rapids Mecosta Restaurant 1005 Perry Holland Motor Homes Holland Ottawa Retail 670 E. 16th St GrayBar Electric Grand Rapids Kent Retail 2204 Turner NW Metro Credit Union Warren Macomb CreditUnion 6611 Chicago Road Rentalex Kalamazoo Kalamazoo Retail 3928 S Westnedge Ave Ulrich's Bookstore Ann Arbor Washtenaw Retail 549 East University Ave Frankenmuth Credit Union Frankenmuth Saginaw CreditUnion 580 N. Main Clinton County Federal St. Johns Clinton CreditUnion 1200 Zeeb Dr Cellular One Caro Tuscola Retail 1514 West Caro Rd Cinema Carousel Muskegon Muskegon MovieTheater 4289 Grand Haven Rd Patten Monument Co Comstock Park Kent Retail 3980 West River Drive NE Cellular One Mt Pleasant Isabella Retail 4459 E Bluegrass Rd AMC Livonia 20 Livonia Wayne MovieTheater 19500 Haggerty Rd Tuesday Morning Flint Genesee Retail G3567 Miller Rd Monroe Historical Museum Monroe Monroe Museum 3775 N Custer Tuscola Med Care Facility Caro Tuscola Service 1285 Cleaver Rd Advance America Howell Livingston MoneyLender 2518 E Grand River Lake Huron Campground Port Sanilac Sanilac Campground 2353 N Lakeshore Road Value City Furniture Utica Macomb Retail 45350 Utica Park Blvd Fernadle Public Library Ferndale Oakland Library 222 E Nine Mile Rd Ned's Bookstore Ypsilanti Washtenaw Retail 707 West Cross NuUnion Credit Union Holland Ottawa CreditUnion 340 120th Avenue Priscilla's Lansing Ingham Retail 3205 W Saginaw St NuUnion Credit Union Grand Haven Ottawa CreditUnion 16916 Robbins Road AMC Laurel Park 10 Livonia Wayne MovieTheater 17310 Laurel Pk Dr N Cellular One Alpena Alpena Retail 3319 W Washington Quest Diagnostics Grand Blanc Genesee Service 6011 Porter Rd Bridgewater Place Grand Rapids Kent Mixed-Use 333 Bridge St NW AMC Meridian Mall 6 Okemos Ingham MovieTheater 1999 Central Park Dr American General Finance Westland Wayne MoneyLender 1929 N. Wayne Road Allegan County Fairgrounds Allegan Allegan Fairground 150 Allegan Co Fair Dr Jared Galleria of Jewelry Grandville Kent Retail 3610 Rivertown Pkwy SW Alltel Saint Joseph Berrien Retail 2005 Niles Road Financial Plus Credit Union Flint Genesee CreditUnion G 5256 Corunna Rd Cellular One Traverse City Grd Traverse Retail 427 S Union St First Savings Bank Union Cass Bank 15534 US-12 Advanced Physical Therapy Monroe Monroe Service 1420 N Monroe St Save A Lot Jenison Ottawa Retail 7500 Cottonwood Dr Financial Plus Credit Union Swartz Creek Genesee CreditUnion G-7048 Miller Road Tuesday Morning East Lansing Ingham Retail 2825 E Grand River Ave Studio 28 Wyoming Kent MovieTheater 1350 28th St SW Wazz's Party Plus Drummond Chippewa Retail 29582 Channel Rd Alltel Cadillac Wexford Retail 8836 Boon Rd Service One Federal Muskegon Muskegon CreditUnion 1075 E Sherman Orthopedic Associates Port Huron St. Clair Service 940 River Centre Drive Family Health Care Grant Newaygo Service 11 N Maple NuUnion Credit Union Lansing Ingham CreditUnion 438 E Edgewood Blvd Co-Op Services Walled Lake Oakland CreditUnion 1260 N Pontiac Trail Woodland Mall Grand Rapids Kent Retail 3195 28th St SE Genesee Valley Phy.Therapy Swartz Creek Genesee Service 6012 S Linden Rd Alltel Lansing Eaton Retail 6009 W Saginaw Hwy Laurels of Sandy Creek Wayland Allegan Service 425 E Elm Street Midland Mall Midland Midland Retail 6800 Eastman Briarwood Mall Ann Arbor Washtenaw Retail 100 Briarwood Circle Business City County Type Address (Click on column headers to sort) last update: Feb 5, 2008 Michigan Coalition for Responsible Gun Owners Mon Feb 11, 2008 9:53 am  Tegan F L I N T O I D that's crazy. Luckily, I don't go to any of those businesses. How do they feel about on or off duty police officers I wonder? If a plain clothes cop comes in and they notice that he has a gun, will they tell him to leave? Then again, if the weapon is concealed, they shouldn't be able to tell.... unless they pull it on a criminal... Mon Feb 11, 2008 12:17 pm  Demeralda F L I N T O I D Sorry, but I think if you're a jeweler or a bank, you'd have reason to be suspicious of someone that entered with a gun. And that leads you to treat all your customers with suspicion. For them, it's just good business. Mon Feb 11, 2008 12:24 pm    Display posts from previous:   All Posts1 Day7 Days2 Weeks1 Month3 Months6 Months1 Year Oldest FirstNewest First

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