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Ryan Eashoo
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PLEASE CHECK OUT THE WEBSITE FOR OBAMA'S CHURCH: www.tucc.org/about.htm
I was very curious to learn more about Obama after seeing him on Oprah recently. When he said that he was a member of the Trinity Church of Christ, I thought it would be helpful in my understanding of him to visit his church's website. What I found was shocking! In the church's 10-point mission statement it is clearly stated that the congregation has a NON-NEGOTIABLE COMMITMENT TO AFRICA - NOT AMERICA. In fact, there is no mention! |
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Dave Starr
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Tue Jan 08, 2008 3:25 pm |
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andi03
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That would explain the Louis Farakhan interview in the magazine that the reverends put out.
edited to add: Never heard of "womanist theology" ?! |
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Tue Jan 08, 2008 3:37 pm |
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twotap
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Ah yes Calypso Louie now theirs a piece of work.   |
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Tue Jan 08, 2008 4:06 pm |
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my goodness ryan. i must have overlooked the "NOT AMERICA" part.
where exactly is it?? or is that comment something you just happened
to throw in?? 
personally, i see nothing wrong with it. enlighten me ryan. |
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Opprimo
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quote:
last time here schreef:
my goodness ryan. i must have overlooked the "NOT AMERICA" part.
where exactly is it?? or is that comment something you just happened
to throw in??
personally, i see nothing wrong with it. enlighten me ryan.
Um...
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A congregation with a non-negotiable COMMITMENT TO AFRICA.
Hello... you are in Illinois, AMERICA. I would wager NONE of you have been to Africa in the last 5 years, most likely your life. These are the type that think Africa is full of fun people with fancy dresses & fancier names, and everyone is a descendant of royalty... No clue about the actual issues affecting their world.
This joker refuses to respect the National Anthem. [reference: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/anthem.asp ] This combined with his church's stance makes me wonder who exactly he's pledging allegiance to... |
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Tue Jan 08, 2008 10:47 pm |
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Opinionated
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As always, you have made an excellent point, Opprimo.
A couple of points, though. Just because his congregation has a non-negotiable commitment to Africa means he's not committed to America? I didn't read it that way. Also, does it mean that Obama's not alligent to America because he doesn't put his hand over his heart during the National Anthem? I have never defined patriotism as something that small. The world is full of people who have no idea what patriotism is. Did he do that to spite America? Or was he ignorant of what that act meant? Isn't what's really important what he can do, and has done, for America? I think that would show how patriotic he is. Also, isn't that excercising your right as an American to express yourself?
Having said that, I agree - he does seem like a joker. I'm for Paul, too (only because he's a Libertarian in disguise). |
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Demeralda
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That's all tripe.
Let's face it, every candidate has to profess something about his religion to appease "America at large". I most firmly believe that he is a secular humanist, like his mother was, and this religion thing is really the result of considering national politics.
While I don't condone adopting a religious stance to win votes, I do see why it must appear to be necessary. |
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Wed Jan 09, 2008 8:32 am |
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this whole thread is weak. ryan's assumption the church is racist is
nonsensical at best. opprimo's comments make no sense whatsoever.
first, opp has no idea who's been to africa. a trip to africa is no different
than a trip to canada or france or egypt. the statement that these "types"
think africa is full of fun people is atrocious. as a matter of fact, i'll bet
i and others in every state have forgotten more about africa than you will ever know. i view his/her comments disrespectful, ignorant and uninformed. Hello! you have no idea of that which you speak. i haven't heard any dumb comments when irish people wear green on st.pat's day (of which i qualify to wear) nor any other nationalistic days celebrated by americans. it is a mistake for you to believe none of these people read nor are aware of africa's issues. you played yourself. |
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Wed Jan 09, 2008 11:50 am |
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Opprimo
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quote:
last time here schreef:
this whole thread is weak. ryan's assumption the church is racist is
nonsensical at best. opprimo's comments make no sense whatsoever.
first, opp has no idea who's been to africa. a trip to africa is no different
than a trip to canada or france or egypt. the statement that these "types"
think africa is full of fun people is atrocious. as a matter of fact, i'll bet
i and others in every state have forgotten more about africa than you will ever know. i view his/her comments disrespectful, ignorant and uninformed. Hello! you have no idea of that which you speak. i haven't heard any dumb comments when irish people wear green on st.pat's day (of which i qualify to wear) nor any other nationalistic days celebrated by americans. it is a mistake for you to believe none of these people read nor are aware of africa's issues. you played yourself.
well, you know we agree on a lot of things, but I gotta disagree on this one... I stand behind everything I said and am more than willing to apologize for the 2% of that church population where my self-confessed
assumptions
are wrong. And as far as not hearing dumb comments when any other Nationalistic celebrations are held. I'm pretty sure there are lots of them flying around but they don't make CNN when someone makes a joke in poor taste. |
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Wed Jan 09, 2008 1:54 pm |
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aw come on...2%?? you've never been there. you assume 98% of those
people are what you call "those types". your simply wrong, but i do
however agree with the other 98% of what you write!!  |
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quote:
Ryan Eashoo schreef:
PLEASE CHECK OUT THE WEBSITE FOR OBAMA'S CHURCH: www.tucc.org/about.htm
I was very curious to learn more about Obama after seeing him on Oprah recently. When he said that he was a member of the Trinity Church of Christ, I thought it would be helpful in my understanding of him to visit his church's website. What I found was shocking! In the church's 10-point mission statement it is clearly stated that the congregation has a NON-NEGOTIABLE COMMITMENT TO AFRICA - NOT AMERICA. In fact, there is no mention!
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/church.asp |
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Thu Jan 10, 2008 8:40 pm |
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| your funny |
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Fri Jan 11, 2008 12:43 pm |
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twotap
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Anytime someone decides to run for prez he or she should expect to have every statement, vote, club affiliation, church membership and just about everything else from their past analyzed. I gotta say once again that if a caucasian candidate belonged to a church that proclaimed its unwavering devotion to his race and led one to believe they would govern accordingly they would be finished before they got started. Double standard at work here, sure appears that way.  |
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Fri Jan 11, 2008 12:59 pm |
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oh i agree 2tap..i agree.....
running for anything will bring up all kinds of suppositions, rumors
and lies. thats just the way it is. i was somewhat surprised that ryan
would be the one to start this but.......ahhhhhhh youth!!!!!!!!!!! 
before i grew up "mentally" i too was a bit of a hothead!!!!!!!  |
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