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flintteach9
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Bill Cosby hit the nail on the head when he spoke up about the ills of today's black "family".
Here is what Bill Cosby said. His words ring true to MY ears !
Ladies and gentlemen, I really have to ask you to seriously consider what you’ve heard, and now this is the end of the evening so to speak. I heard a prize fight manager say to his fellow who was losing badly, “David, listen to me. It’s not what’s he’s doing to you. It’s what you’re not doing. (laughter).
Ladies and gentlemen, these people set, they opened the doors, they gave us the right, and today, ladies and gentlemen, in our cities and public schools we have fifty percent drop out. In our own neighborhood, we have men in prison. No longer is a person embarrassed because they’re pregnant without a husband. (clapping) No longer is a boy considered an embarrassment if he tries to run away from being the father of the unmarried child (clapping)
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Ladies and gentlemen, the lower economic and lower middle economic people are [not*] holding their end in this deal. In the neighborhood that most of us grew up in, parenting is not going on. (clapping) In the old days, you couldn’t hooky school because every drawn shade was an eye (laughing). And before your mother got off the bus and to the house, she knew exactly where you had gone, who had gone into the house, and where you got on whatever you had one and where you got it from. Parents don’t know that today.
I’m talking about these people who cry when their son is standing there in an orange suit. Where were you when he was two? (clapping) Where were you when he was twelve? (clapping) Where were you when he was eighteen, and how come you don’t know he had a pistol? (clapping) And where is his father, and why don’t you know where he is? And why doesn’t the father show up to talk to this boy?
The church is only open on Sunday. And you can’t keep asking Jesus to ask doing things for you (clapping). You can’t keep asking that God will find a way. God is tired of you (clapping and laughing). God was there when they won all those cases. 50 in a row. That’s where God was because these people were doing something. And God said, “I’m going to find a way.” I wasn’t there when God said it… I’m making this up (laughter). But it sounds like what God would do (laughter).
We cannot blame white people. White people (clapping) .. white people don’t live over there. They close up the shop early. The Korean ones still don’t know us as well…they stay open 24 hours (laughter).
I’m looking and I see a man named Kenneth Clark. He and his wife Mamie…Kenneth’s still alive. I have to apologize to him for these people because Kenneth said it straight. He said you have to strengthen yourselves…and we’ve got to have that black doll. And everybody said it. Julian Bond said it. Dick Gregory said it. All these lawyers said it. And you wouldn’t know that anybody had done a damned thing.
50 percent drop out rate, I’m telling you, and people in jail, and women having children by five, six different men. Under what excuse, I want somebody to love me, and as soon as you have it, you forget to parent. Grandmother, mother, and great grandmother in the same room, raising children, and the child knows nothing about love or respect of any one of the three of them (clapping). All this child knows is “gimme, gimme, gimme.” These people want to buy the friendship of a child….and the child couldn’t care less. Those of us sitting out here who have gone on to some college or whatever we’ve done, we still fear our parents (clapping and laughter). And these people are not parenting. They’re buying things for the kid. $500 sneakers, for what? They won’t buy or spend $250 on Hooked on Phonics. (clapping)
A\Kenneth Clark, somewhere in his home in upstate New York…just looking ahead. Thank God, he doesn’t know what’s going on, thank God. But these people, the ones up here in the balcony fought so hard. Looking at the incarcerated, these are not political criminals. These are people going around stealing Coca Cola. People getting shot in the back of the head over a piece of pound cake! Then we all run out and are outraged, “The cops shouldn’t have shot him” What the hell was he doing with the pound cake in his hand? (laughter and clapping). I wanted a piece of pound cake just as bad as anybody else (laughter) And I looked at it and I had no money. And something called parenting said if get caught with it you’re going to embarrass your mother. Not you’re going to get your butt kicked. No. You’re going to embarrass your mother. You’re going to embarrass your family.
If knock that girl up, you’re going to have to run away because it’s going to be too embarrassing for your family. In the old days, a girl getting pregnant had to go down South, and then her mother would go down to get her. But the mother had the baby. I said the mother had the baby. The girl didn’t have a baby. The mother had the baby in two weeks. (laughter) We are not parenting. Ladies and gentlemen, listen to these people, they are showing you what’s wrong. People putting their clothes on backwards. –isn’t that a sign of something going on wrong? (laughter)
Are you not paying attention, people with their hat on backwards, pants down around the crack. Isn’t that a sign of something, or are you waiting for Jesus to pull his pants up (laughter and clapping ). Isn’t it a sign of something when she’s got her dress all the way up to the crack…and got all kinds of needles and things going through her body. What part of Africa did this come from? (laughter). We are not Africans. Those people are not Africans, they don’t know a damned thing about Africa. With names like Shaniqua, Shaligua, Mohammed and all that crap and all of them are in jail. (When we give these kinds names to our children, we give them the strength and inspiration in the meaning of those names. What’s the point of giving them strong names if there is not parenting and values backing it up).
Brown Versus the Board of Education is no longer the white person’s problem. We’ve got to take the neighborhood back (clapping). We’ve got to go in there. Just forget telling your child to go to the Peace Corps. It’s right around the corner. (laughter) It’s standing on the corner. It can’t speak English. It doesn’t want to speak English. I can’t even talk the way these people talk. “Why you ain’t where you is go, ra,” I don’t know who these people are. And I blamed the kid until I heard the mother talk (laughter). Then I heard the father talk. This is all in the house. You used to talk a certain way on the corner and you got into the house and switched to English. Everybody knows it’s important to speak English except these knuckleheads. You can’t land a plane with “why you ain’t…” You can’t be a doctor with that kind of crap coming out of your mouth. There is no Bible that has that kind of language. Where did these people get the idea that they’re moving ahead on this. Well, they know they’re not, they’re just hanging out in the same place, five or six generations sitting in the projects when you’re just supposed to stay there long enough to get a job and move out.
Now look, I’m telling you. It’s not what they’re doing to us. It’s what we’re not doing. 50 percent drop out. Look, we’re raising our own ingrown immigrants. These people are fighting hard to be ignorant. There’s no English being spoken, and they’re walking and they’re angry. Oh God, they’re angry and they have pistols and they shoot and they do stupid things. And after they kill somebody, they don’t have a plan. Just murder somebody. Boom. Over what? A pizza? And then run to the poor cousin’s house. They sit there and the cousin says “what are you doing here?” “I just killed somebody, man.” “What?” “I just killed somebody, I’ve got to stay here.” “No, you don’t.” “Well, give me some money, I’ll go…” “Where are you going?” “North Carolina.” Everybody wanted to go to North Carolina. But the police know where you’re going because your cousin has a record.
Five or six different children, same woman, eight, ten different husbands or whatever, pretty soon you’re going to have to have DNA cards so you can tell who you’re making love to. You don’t who this is. It might be your grandmother. (laughter) I’m telling you, they’re young enough. Hey, you have a baby when you’re twelve. Your baby turns thirteen and has a baby, how old are you? Huh? Grandmother. By the time you’re twelve, you could have sex with your grandmother, you keep those numbers coming. I’m just predicting.
I’m saying Brown Vs. Board of Education. We’ve got to hit the streets, ladies and gentlemen. I’m winding up, now , no more applause. I’m saying, look at the Black Muslims. There are Black Muslims standing on the street corners and they say so forth and so on, and we’rere laughing at them because they have bean pies and all that, but you don’t read “Black Muslim gunned down while chastising drug dealer.” You don’t read that. They don’t shoot down Black Muslims. You understand me. Muslims tell you to get out of the neighborhood. When you want to clear your neighborhood out, first thing you do is go get the Black Muslims, bean pies and all (laughter). And your neighborhood is then clear. The police can’t do it .
I’m telling you Christians, what’s wrong with you? Why can’t you hit the streets? Why can’t you clean it out yourselves? It’s our time now, ladies and gentlemen. It is our time (clapping). And I’ve got good news for you. It’s not about money. It’s about you doing something ordinarily that we do—get in somebody else’s business. It’s time for you to not accept the language that these people are speaking, which will take them nowhere. What the hell good is Brown V. Board of Education if nobody wants it?
What is it with young girls getting after some girl who wants to still remain a virgin. Who are these sick black people and where did they come from and why haven’t they been parented to shut up? To go up to girls and try to get a club where “you are nobody..,” this is a sickness ladies and gentlemen and we are not paying attention to these children. These are children. They don’t know anything. They don’t have anything. They’re homeless people. All they know how to do is beg. And you give it to them, trying to win their friendship. And what are they good for? And then they stand there in an orange suit and you drop to your knees, “(crying sound) He didn’t do anything, he didn’t do anything.” Yes, he did do it. And you need to have an orange suit on too (laughter, clapping).
So, ladies and gentlemen, I want to thank you for the award (big laughter) and giving me an opportunity to speak because, I mean, this is the future, and all of these people who lined up and done..they’ve got to be wondering what the hell happened. Brown V. Board of Education, these people who marched and were hit in the face with rocks and punched in the face to get an education and we got these knuckleheads walking around who don’t want to learn English (clapping) I know that you all know it. I just want to get you as angry that you ought to be. When you walk around the neighborhood and you see this stuff, that stuff’s not funny. These people are not funny anymore. And that ‘s not brother. And that’s not my sister. They’re faking and they’re dragging me way down because the state, the city and all these people have to pick up the tab on them because they don’t want to accept that they have to study to get an education.
We have to begin to build in the neighborhood, have restaurants, have cleaners, have pharmacies, have real estate, have medical buildings instead of trying to rob them all. And so, ladies and gentlemen, please, Dorothy Height, where ever she’s sitting, she didn’t do all that stuff so that she could hear somebody say “I can’t stand algebra, I can’t stand…and “what you is.” It’s horrible.
Basketball players, multimillionaires can’t write a paragraph. Football players, multimillionaires, can’t read. Yes. Multimillionaires. Well, Brown V Board of Education, where are we today? It’s there. They paved the way. What did we do with it. The white man, he’s laughing, got to be laughing. 50 percent drop out, rest of them in prison.
You got to tell me that if there was parenting, help me, if there was parenting, he wouldn’t have picked up the Coca Cola bottle and walked out with it to get shot in the back of the head. He wouldn’t have. Not if he loved his parents. And not if they were parenting! Not if the father would come home. Not if the boy hadn’t dropped the sperm cell inside of the girl and the girl had said, “No, you have to come back here and be the father of this child.” Not ..“I don’t have to.”
Therefore, you have the pile up of these sweet beautiful things born by nature raised by no one. Give them presents. You’re raising pimps. That’s what a pimp is. A pimp will act nasty to you so you have to go out and get them something. And then you bring it back and maybe he or she hugs you. And that’s why pimp is so famous. They’ve got a drink called the “Pimp-something.” You all wonder what that’s about, don’t you? Well, you’re probably going to let Jesus figure it out for you (laughter). Well, I’ve got something to tell you about Jesus. When you go to the church, look at the stained glass things of Jesus. Look at them. Is Jesus smiling? Not in one picture. So, tell your friends. Let’s try to do something. Let’s try to make Jesus smile. Let’s start parenting. Thank you, thank you (clapping, cheers)
People like the Rev, and Frizzel Gray (aka: Kweisi Mfume) and other so-called influential black leaders called Mr. Cosby an "uncle Tom". Why? Because he spoke the truth?
Wake up my young and old black brothas and sistas ! Educate yourself, educate your children, educate those around you. Don't buy into the new system of slavery !
Be the example rather than making the example !
I have instilled in my two boys that the first impression is the lasting impression.
My boys don't speak Ebonics nor hip-hop slang. My boys don't sag their pants down the crack of their azz. My boy's respect family, authority and flag.
My two son's know the important thing in their young lives is EDUCATION !
I encourage them to read, write and expression their own opinions and in due time they can formulate their own.
My boy's are my wives and I only investment in life and we treated them as such ! |
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Sat Jul 29, 2006 11:44 am |
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Onelovesicksista
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| Did I miss something or didnt Bill Cosby's son, who was a drug addict get murdered by gun violence? Is this the same man who has a child outside of his marriage to Camille? The same man who profits off of Fat Albert, but wants to tell Black America, particularly Poor Black America, what they need to do? Get your own affairs in order first. You cant tell your neighbors what to do if your house isnt in order... |
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Tue Aug 15, 2006 4:05 pm |
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flinteach9
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Mr. Cosby spoke of those very things when addressing the crowd. That is why he made the speech he did.
Truth hurts when it comes from the mouth of a brotha ! |
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Tue Aug 15, 2006 11:34 pm |
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Wood Ether
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C'mon Chapman, sure there are many problems in some African-American communities, but to imply that they are all self-inflicted is a stretch. Some folks (black and white) give up hope too easily, others are born into an unwinable situations. Flint produces alot of miser for both blacks and whites. I can remember applying for over 30 jobs one summer, when I finally was hired it soon became apparent that this place (on Ballenger Hwy) refused to hire African-Americans even though they accounted for a large portion of the clientele. Other friends weren't so lucky-- ya see there was NO work. Some sold drugs, others began to take drugs. Its a bit more complicated than Bill Cosby merely saying pick yourself up by your own bootstraps... some people need help. Ugh...another example of inequity in Flint, a friend's dad lives in a condo in Swartz Creek. the condo two down from him is for sale. An African-American couple got out to look at the place and were told it was just sold... it wasn't. These are just a few anecdotal examples-- alotta African-Americans (you can replace African-Americans with any other demographic if you like) persevere, some eventually engage illicit activities to make ends meet, some need to see a glimmer of hope, and some give up too easily. Guaranteed if there were decent paing jobs in Flint (or Detroit or Baltimore) you wouldn'tsee so much negative behavior.
P.S.- Puhleeze don't lapse into one of your "massa" routines, its undignified. |
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Fri Aug 18, 2006 3:36 am |
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ellwoodflint
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I agree with everything bill cosby has said .
I would like to take it one step further. when the laws were changed and rights were issued, we as a nation have always gave a fish to fix the problem and make each other feel better.
This way of thinking has evolved to all those in poverty. generations of people of all colors have been taught by the system that it will be taken care of, with-out effort, all they need is an excuse. our parents didnt have that way of thinking and taught us better.
this system has allowed generational poverty and now they complain.
people need to be taught to fish for themselves.
if i spoil my child and then complain when he is an adult because he does nothing for himself, who's fault is it other than my own.
i say be grateful for the good values our parents taught us and share the education it has brought instead of giving the answers, because it is easier for us. |
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Tue Aug 22, 2006 5:19 pm |
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pissedoffmamabear
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| I think a survey needs to be done, ask the kids now adays if they even know one, just one of the 10 commandments and I betcha many dont, church has been taken out of the schools, and violent video games, violent movies, violence and murder are entertainment now for youth, just shoot and run is the new game in town, everything thinking it is black on black murders is full of crap, my white son was murdered in June, for just hanging our with his racing friends like he has done for the past 10 yrs of his life, his life was taken for no reason what so ever, since his murder I have encountered several white parents whose children were also murdered, but they were not as lucky as I, they only new the killers were black, and never caught, so this black on black crap that is being preached is wrong, it is black on black and black on white murders, wake up Flint and take back your streets, send your children to sunday school as I did, dont let them play violent video games, dont let them watch murder for entertainment on t.v.,,,,,when they speak foul mouthed to you, put some soap in thier mouth, dont let them listen to vulgar music, we were not wealthy raising our children but we raised them right, and they did not grow up to be killers, and sell drugs in the streets, poor people can raise thier children correctly and god fearing also , remember President Clinton was raised by his mother , no father figure and in a poor home, so stop blaming everyone for your fricken problems and be a PARENT |
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Mon Sep 25, 2006 11:34 pm |
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ellwoodflint
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I'm sorry for your loss, but let me clarify
I was not talking about " black " children. I am talking about a generation of kids who are being brought up in a society of hand outs instead of education and tv videos instead of parents. This way of thinking by current adults in charge has to change before these kids will.
I am a very involved parent. |
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Sun Oct 01, 2006 3:15 pm |
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rational thinker
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| Every one talking about balck on black and white on black. This is crazy you talk about being a community well how can you become a community if your mayor is trying to ruin that. Everyone nedds to pull together threw tough times like this and actually help one another instead of blaming these children if anyone is to blame its the parents for raising them this way. And by all means no disrespect but you do not need church these children need structure and if your are raised with trash the odds your going to be trash. What these kids need is to be watched instead of let them go where they want to or even let be with friends you do not agree with these are your children take your responsibilty and be the parent, you had them deal with them and don't let some one else raise them. |
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Tue Oct 03, 2006 10:13 am |
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ellwoodflint
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rational thinker.
i believe that is just what i said.
are you from flint? |
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Thu Oct 05, 2006 7:04 am |
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John W.
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| Rational Thinker our mayor is doing a fantastic job! Flint is coming back! |
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Thu Oct 05, 2006 3:16 pm |
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James
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| Yeah it's tru that alot of African Americans are locked up, but the system is set up to send Blacks back to prison. When someone gets outta prison they can't find a job so they slang drugs or rob, and I don't blame them cuz u gotta live. Then they end up going back to prison cuz society won't except them. |
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Thu Oct 05, 2006 3:53 pm |
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Adam Ford
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| John W. you're joking right? |
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Thu Oct 05, 2006 9:35 pm |
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pissedoffmamabear
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| Oh john you have to be kidding, why do blacks condone violence as you are, poor whites and poor blacks have every oportunity to go to college, thier are so many government grants available, selling drugs is just an easy way out for them and quick money, the killers on our streets are drug dealers, the killer of my son who worked for a living in a honest job was a drug dealer who was never put to jail for running a crack house, he was put on probation, maybe if the judge had been harsher he would not have been out to murder my son, the nieghbors of this criminal say he has terrorized thier neighborhood for years. People can confidentially call crime stoppers and get the reward money and turn these criminals in for 1000 dollars, flint needs to stop being quiet, and turning the other cheek, it could be thier child next, thier grand child, if they do not speak out, If this is true what you say John, then the answer is to put thier asses in prison for LIFE, no possibility of ever seeing the light of day again, now how do you like that idea, a dumb answer for a dumb person, as I said, raise your children right, and yes church is one of the answers, |
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Tue Oct 10, 2006 11:48 pm |
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pissedoffmamabear
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| ,,Oh john ,,,I mean James,,, sorry...john ,you have to be kidding, why do blacks condone violence as you are, poor whites and poor blacks have every oportunity to go to college, thier are so many government grants available, selling drugs is just an easy way out for them and quick money, the killers on our streets are drug dealers, the killer of my son who worked for a living in a honest job was a drug dealer who was never put to jail for running a crack house, he was put on probation, maybe if the judge had been harsher he would not have been out to murder my son, the nieghbors of this criminal say he has terrorized thier neighborhood for years. People can confidentially call crime stoppers and get the reward money and turn these criminals in for 1000 dollars, flint needs to stop being quiet, and turning the other cheek, it could be thier child next, thier grand child, if they do not speak out, If this is true what you say James, then the answer is to put thier asses in prison for LIFE, no possibility of ever seeing the light of day again, now how do you like that idea, a dumb answer for a dumb person, as I said, raise your children right, and yes church is one of the answers, |
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Tue Oct 10, 2006 11:49 pm |
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pissedoffmamabear
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| To the person who thinks its hard for blacks to get a job, years ago when I was in Management at a Radio shack store, an nice young black high school student came in and applied, I hired him on the spot, he was in total shock, he said to me, why did you hire me so fast, I told him, because you were clean, well dressed and wearing a tie, I told him do you know how many black and white people come in here with thier pants around thier ankles and t-shirts, and ask for a job, I hand them an application and never call them,,,,,If you want a job dress like you want the job, take a shower, put some damn deoderant on, comb your hair, and pull your fricken pants up, and if your a guy wear a tie, if your a female dont wear a skirt up to your neck,,,,that is how you get a job, white or black,,,,when I left my management position a year later, this nice young black gentlemen still worked at radio shack, he was a good kid |
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Thu Oct 19, 2006 11:40 pm |
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