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The Southern Poverty Law Center reported that between 2000 and 2008 there was a 48% increase in the number of recognized hate groups in the United States. The main five states were Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, New York and Washington. At that time there were 26 active hate groups in Michigan.
I remember when Skinheads ruled Buckham Alley downtown and painted their racial grafitti in the alley and on the riverbank park.
There was a symbol I did not understand, and still don't, that resembled a Catholic symbol. When I saw it on a tattoo parlor on Corunna Road, I went in and asked what it was. There were two adults and two children in the building. When the manfrom the back came to the counter in his wife beater shirt, it ws hard to miss all of the racist tattoos. When he told me it was a Catholic symbol, a boy about 9 years old said "yeah right".
But I don't see or hear much about that any more. Here is the last article I recall.
"Skins" white supremacist group making itself known in Flint
Published: Saturday, September 15, 2007, 9:10 PM Updated: Saturday, September 15, 2007, 9:12 PM
By Bryn Mickle | bmickle1@mlive.com
Flint -- Ryan Loree and his friends think they're better than you.
Unless you're white.
The 22-year-old Flint man is vice president of the Rollingwood Skins, a local white supremacist group with ties to the National Socialist Movement, a neo-Nazi organization that has held rallies in Toledo and Orlando, Fla. The Rollingwood Skins recently has tried to raise its profile, handing out fliers at the Crim Festival of Races in Flint.
Based in Minnesota, the NSM claims upwards of 125 members in Michigan but has not had much of a presence in the Flint area. The Rollingwood Skins could change that, said Dan Hill of Port Huron, NSM's northern director.
"They're a young organization, but they're up and coming," said Hill, who oversees Nazi chapters stretching from Minnesota to Pennsylvania.
With the expected backing of a dozen Nazis from outside the area, the Rollingwood Skins are planning a rally outside the Flint chapter of the NAACP on Lippincott Boulevard.
Chapter President Frances Gilcreast said she views the rally as a publicity stunt. She doesn't think much of Nazi groups, and said a group of skinheads doesn't worry her.
In fact, Gilcreast said the NAACP supports their right to express their views.
"We will defend them on their civil rights. ... It's a matter of everybody's rights," she said.
The Rollingwood Skins are part of what the Southern Poverty Law Center in Montgomery, Ala., sees as an upswing of hate activity fueled by anti-immigration fervor. In the past two years, the SPLC estimates 144 new extremist groups have formed to "harass and intimidate immigrants."
Mark Potok, director of the SPLC intelligence project, said the immigration debate is a boon for Nazi groups.
"It's really a debate about people with brown skin," said Potok. "It's an issue for them to exploit."
Loree said he believes nonwhites and illegal immigrants have ruined Flint's parks and destroyed neighborhoods with drugs and crime.
With his swastika flag pin and shaved head, he's unhappy with the state of the city as a whole. The Rollingwood Skins -- named for a park near Flint's Kearsley Dam that Loree said has fallen into disrepair -- say they want to clean up the area.
The group has spent the past two months passing out red fliers directed at "white Americans" and asking people to join and "reclaim your white heritage." Loree said he isn't afraid to parade down neighborhood streets in a brown shirt with his swastika flag aloft.
By speaking out against what he sees as slights against white people, Loree said he is trying to boost pride for his race.
He insisted he doesn't advocate violence to cure society's ills.
"I'm not Hitler," said Loree.
That's not to say he doesn't agree with a lot of Adolf Hitler's beliefs, though.
"He did make some mistakes, but just because he made mistakes doesn't mean he was an evil person," said Loree, who said the group reads selections from Hitler's "Mein Kampf" at their meetings.
Loree said what began with four people a year ago has grown to 25 members with an eye on 88 by year's end.
Why 88? "H" is the eighth letter of the alphabet, and 88 is the numerical equivalent of "HH" -- or "Heil Hitler."
While Loree proudly admits he is part of a hate group, he said that doesn't mean he is looking to hurt anyone or spray racist graffiti on park benches.
"We don't go out and cause trouble at night," he said.
Loree, however, has had some legal problems.
Flint police arrested him Friday morning on an outstanding felony larceny warrant and he was taken to the Lapeer County Jail where he was held on $10,000 bond.
Potok scoffs at the notion that such hate groups are against violence.
"(Nazis like) to provoke violence, then claim they abhor violence," said Potok. "They're a bunch of hypocrites. |
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The old Winchester Hospital before it was torn down was a monument to a group of Flushing School youths who called themselves the Satanic Nazi warriors. This was the worst and most graphic hate grafitti I ever photographed. It depicted the killing and mutilation of black men and women.
They mixed it up with a curious kind of Odin worship and a book called the Necronomican. Wall after wall was filled with quotes from the book and alleged Babylonian curses and Gods.
They called the place the Crows Nest and the crows announced our arrival every time we arrived. They usually sent someone from the nearby street and we could hear thenm walking on the floor above us. We rarely saw them and usually only one, sometimes on the roof or on a hill top by the main building. Only once were they seen as a group and then they were in all military style garb and boots.
They were known to terrorize some people in the area and once chased a group of teens back to Flushing. |
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Sun Feb 03, 2013 8:05 am |
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I bring this up because as I read some comments in M-Live and some by Two tap, pan 8 and others I am reminded of the history of these groups in Flint.
The KK once held rally's in Kearsley park and older politicians speak of the influence held by prominent individuals who belonged to this group, Our history was definitely impacted by these tainted leaders.
The eastside once was a site indicated as a KKK site by the Southern Poverty law center, but that designation is gone. I no longer see all of the confederate flags flying all over the east side.
In the late 90's there was a very young man who was a local leader in the KKK. He lived on Franklin and an announcement was made that he was holding a Michigan KKK meeting at his home. He was interviewed by Reverend Harper of the CPSA Courier and the young man and his girlfriend posed in their robes for photos. Later that year there was a KKK rally in Howell and he was there. He got in trouble with the ATF and his house was burned down. I don't know what happened to him. |
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Sun Feb 03, 2013 8:14 am |
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I was once introduced to a Pennsylvania Skinhead who was here because he got in trouble in the Scranton area. I was under the impression he was afraid to return to Pennsylvania. His brother was killed here and some of the grafitti in the alley downtown was a RIP to his brother. He allowed an acquaintance and I to rea his press clippings and literature.
Many on the eastside affiliated with hate groups were former prison inmates. They said they joined to survive.
Little has been heard about these groups since the Iron Cross group in Clio wanted to bomb their School. They had their grafitti in Flint and as far away as Grand Blanc.
The attitudes and belief systems are still around, so where are these groups? Have they moved on to other communities or are they underground. Maybe they are holding out for Rahowa, the Racial Holy War. |
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Sun Feb 03, 2013 8:21 am |
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Neo-Nazis Are Using the Army as a Training Camp
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John Hudson 2,867 ViewsAug 21, 2012
White supremacists aren't the type of people you want to train to be unstoppable fighting machines, but that doesn't mean they're not signing up for the call of duty. In a disturbing Reuters investigation, Daniel Trotta uncovers the campaign by neo-Nazis and certain skinhead groups to encourage enlistment in the Army and Marine Corps so members can learn the skills to overthrow the government, or in neo-Nazi speak, the Zionist Occupation Government. "They call it 'rahowa' - short for racial holy war - and they are preparing for it by joining the ranks of ... the U.S. military," writes Trotta. "Get in, get trained and get out to brace for the coming race war."
The recruiting practice is gaining scrutiny in light of the Wisconsin Sikh temple shooting by gunman Wade Michael Page, a former U.S. Army soldier and neo-Nazi musician. As CNN reported last week, Page's base, Fort Bragg, "was home to a small number of white supremacists including three soldiers later convicted in the murder of an African-American couple." Reuters caught up with Marine T.J. Leydon, who served from 1988 to 1991 while openly promoting neo-Nazi causes:
"I went into the Marine Corps for one specific reason: I would learn how shoot," Leyden told Reuters. "I also learned how to use C-4 (explosives), blow things up. I took all my military skills and said I could use these to train other people," said Leyden, 46, who has since renounced the white power movement and is a consultant for the anti-Nazi Simon Wiesenthal Center.
As a result of this recruiting technique, the U.S. Defense Department is stepping up its efforts to clampdown on violent racists within the military. Sometimes that means making some difficult calls when it comes to screening out applicants at recruiting centers, as Sergeant Aaron Iskenderian tells the news agency:
Iskenderian cited the example of a young man who came in recently with a tattoo of the Confederate flag."We're in the South here. It's considered Southern heritage. It's on the General Lee," Iskenderian said, referring to the car from the television show "The Dukes of Hazzard."
"Is it racist? I asked him, 'What does it mean to you?' and he said, 'Southern pride.'"
The potential recruit also told Iskenderian he had a black girlfriend. Iskenderian sent the issue up the chain of command, and the young man was rejected.
Apparently, once a soldier signs on, it can be extremely difficult to remove the extremists, notes Carter F. Smith, a former military investigator. "They are some of the most disciplined soldiers we have," he said. "They really want to learn to shoot those weapons."
Want to add to this story? Let us know in comments or send an email to the author at jhudson@theatlantic.com. You can share ideas for stories on the Open Wire.
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Sun Feb 03, 2013 8:31 am |
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| Is this the real reason the NRA and the Republicans want to keep their assualt weapons and no gunchecks at gun shows? They train as militia and want to be able to shoot more of their suposed enemy faster and more efficiently. look at the Trayvon martin case where the skinhead groups hold military style training camps. |
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Sun Feb 03, 2013 8:34 am |
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Tag Archives: RAHOWA
The Threat Within: Racists In The Ranks
By Jeff Winbush on August 29, 2012 | 4 Comments
White supremacists have infiltrated the U.S. military.
If you missed hearing about this , blame it on the mainstream media’s inability to walk and chew gum at the same time, but this is an incredibly scary story that has surprisingly been ignored by much of the press obsessing over the Republican coronation of Mitt Romney in Tampa this week.
Death threats against the life of the president are not unusual (and especially not this president), but when the threat to the Commander-In-Chief comes from U.S. soldiers that isn’t just news, it’s scary as hell.
Four Army soldiers based in southeast Georgia killed a former comrade and his girlfriend to protect an anarchist militia group they formed with the intention of overthrowing the U.S. government and killing the president, prosecutors said.
Prosecutors in a civilian court in Long County, near the sprawling Army post Fort Stewart, said the militia group of active and former U.S. military members spent at least $87,000 buying guns and bomb components. They allege the group was serious enough to kill two people — former soldier Michael Roark and his 17-year-old girlfriend, Tiffany York — by shooting them in the woods last December in order to keep its plans secret.
The prosecutor said the militia group had big plans. It plotted to take over Fort Stewart by seizing its ammunition control point and talked of bombing the Forsyth Park fountain in nearby Savannah, she said. In Washington state, she added, the group plotted to bomb a dam and poison the state’s apple crop. Ultimately, prosecutors said, the militia’s goal was to overthrow the government and assassinate the president.
“This domestic terrorist organization did not simply plan and talk,” prosecutor Isabel Pauley told a Superior Court judge. “Prior to the murders in this case, the group took action. Evidence shows the group possessed the knowledge, means and motive to carry out their plans.”
Prosecutors said the group called itself F.E.A.R., short for Forever Enduring Always Ready. Pauley said authorities don’t know how many members it had.
Prosecutors say Roark, 19, served with the four defendants in the 4th Brigade Combat Team of the Army’s 3rd Infantry Division and became involved with the militia. Pauley said the group believed it had been betrayed by Roark, who left the Army two days before he was killed, and decided the ex-soldier and his girlfriend needed to be silenced.
Burnett testified that on the night of Dec. 4, he and the three other soldiers lured Roark and York to some woods a short distance from the Army post under the guise that they were going target shooting. He said Peden shot Roark’s girlfriend in the head while she was trying to get out of her car. Salmon, he said, made Roark get on his knees and shot him twice in the head. Burnett said Aguigui ordered the killings.
Pauley said Aguigui funded the militia using $500,000 in insurance and benefit payments from the death of his pregnant wife a year ago. Aguigui was not charged in his wife’s death, but Pauley told the judge her death was “highly suspicious.”
She said Aguigui used the money to buy $87,000 worth of semiautomatic assault rifles, other guns and bomb components that were recovered from the accused soldiers’ homes and from a storage locker. He also used the insurance payments to buy land for his militia group in Washington state, Pauley said.
The president was targeted, but so was America.
As alarming as the idea of domestic terrorism and murder carried out by active duty soldiers is, it is notable that the charges were filed by Georgia prosecutors and not the U.S. military which dropped charges against the four for the slayings of Roark and York. Military officials need to explain why.
The arrests of these soldiers comes a few days after reports of how the the armed forces was slowly coming to realize they have been infiltrated by White supremacists looking not to serve their country, but receive military training in order to bring about RAHOWA (racial holy war).
They call it “rahowa” – short for racial holy war – and they are preparing for it by joining the ranks of the world’s fiercest fighting machine, the U.S. military.
White supremacists, neo-Nazis and skinhead groups encourage followers to enlist in the Army and Marine Corps to acquire the skills to overthrow what some call the ZOG – the Zionist Occupation Government. Get in, get trained and get out to brace for the coming race war.
If this scenario seems like fantasy or bluster, civil rights organizations take it as deadly serious, especially given recent events. Former U.S. Army soldier Wade Page opened fire with a 9mm handgun at a Sikh temple in Wisconsin on August 5, murdering six people and critically wounding three before killing himself during a shootout with police.
Page, who was 40, was well known in the white supremacist music scene. In the early 2000s he told academic researcher Pete Simi that he became a neo-Nazi after joining the military in 1992. Fred Lucas, who served with him, said Page openly espoused his racist views until 1998, when he was demoted from sergeant to specialist, discharged and barred from re-enlistment.
While at Fort Bragg, in North Carolina, Page told Simi, he made the acquaintance of James Burmeister, a skinhead paratrooper who in 1995 killed a black Fayetteville couple in a racially motivated shooting. Burmeister was sentenced to life in prison and died in 2007.
No one knows how many white supremacists have served since then. A 2008 report commissioned by the Justice Department found half of all right-wing extremists in the United States had military experience.
Wade Michael Page: Neo-Nazi, ex-military, murderer.
In 2009, the Department of Homeland Security released a report documenting the looming threat of far-right extremism and the surge in violence over the past four years when the lunatic fringe of the Right lost their minds over the election of Barack Obama among other factors as the Southern Poverty Law Center noted in 2009 after the DHS report was issued.
A new intelligence assessment by the Department of Homeland Security warns of extremist recruitment fueled by the faltering economy, the election of Barack Obama and fears about Latino immigration — factors the Southern Poverty Law Center has previously cited as underpinning the growth of hate groups and extremist activity.
The report, “Rightwing Extremism: Current Economic and Political Climate Fueling Resurgence in Radicalization and Recruitment” also warns of the recruitment of military veterans to extremist groups — an issue that the
SPLC has investigated and urged the Pentagon to address.
The department’s report, dated April 7, was distributed to law enforcement agencies across the country to aid them in combating potential rightwing terrorism. The SPLC cited the same factors as contributing to extremist activity in its “Year in Hate” report issued in February. That report found the number of hate groups in the United States had grown to 926 — a 54 percent increase since 2000
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“This Homeland Security report reinforces our view that the current political and economic climate in the United States is creating the right conditions for a rise in extremist activity,” said Mark Potok, director of the SPLC’s Intelligence Project, which monitors hate groups. “As did the rise of the militia movement in the 1990s, this increases the threat of domestic terrorism.”
This is what domestic terror by extremists with military experience looks like.
The dead Sikhs murdered by Wade Page would agree right-wing domestic terrorism is real despite attempts by overly touchy Republicans to debunk the DHS report. It has been proven to be scarily accurate in its forecasting.
What was Page besides a White supremacist bigot? Ex-military, and he’s not the only one. We remember two others by name of Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols and the madness they unleashed on Oklahoma City.
I can’t fathom why mainstream conservatives are playing hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil about the clear threat posed by the far right-wing fringe, but they need to expend less energy railing against the DHS report and more recognizing the genuine threat posed by the Neo-Nazis and White supremacists who have traded in their swastikas and hoods for military uniforms and combat boots. |
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Sun Feb 03, 2013 8:41 am |
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| I bring this up because as I read some comments in M-Live and some by the local Flint talk expert on just about every topic untanglingwebs, im reminded of the violence caused by the islamic whackjobs, black panthers, crips, bloods, cobras and all the other minority hate groups out there. Pehaps thats why some feel the need to be prepared what with a Prez, whitehouse, and attorney general that gives these leftist groups a pass. |
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Washington Post
Colin Powell’s former chief of staff: GOP is ‘full of racists’
Posted by Aaron Blake on October 27, 2012 at 3:20 pm
Colin Powell’s former chief of staff says the Republican Party is “full of racists” who only want President Obama out of office because he’s black.
“Let me just be candid: My party is full of racists,” Col. Lawrence Wilkerson said Friday on MSNBC’s “The Ed Show.” ”And the real reason a considerable portion of my party wants President Obama out of the White House has nothing to do with the content of his character, nothing to do with his competence as commander in chief and president, and everything to do with the color of his skin. And that’s despicable.”
Wilkerson, who is white, said the GOP “unfortunately is the bastion of those people — not all of them, but most of them — who are still basing their decisions on race.”
Wilkerson appeared on the show to respond to Romney adviser John Sununu’s suggestion — which he later backed off of — that Powell crossed party lines to endorse Obama because both men are black. Wilkerson said he believes Sununu’s comment was “an unfortunate slip of the tongue.”
Wilkerson is a retired Army colonel who served as chief of staff for Powell in the early 2000s, when Powell was George W. Bush’s secretary of state. He has since been very critical of Bush, the Iraq war and the intelligence community’s conclusions in the run-up to the war. He also endorsed Sen. Jim Webb (D-Va.) in the 2006 Virginia Senate race.
(For more on Wilkerson’s break with his Republican colleagues, see this 2006 Washington Post story. At the time, Wilkerson’s criticisms were enough to make even Powell keep his distance, despite a long and close working relationship.)
Wilkerson’s comments broke the same day that a new Associated Press study revealed that a majority of Americans express “explicit anti-black views” — even if they don’t realize their prejudices.
The poll showed 51 percent of Americans expressed such views — up from 48 percent before Obama took office — but that the increase might be offset by rising favorable views of African-Americans. |
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Sun Feb 03, 2013 8:51 am |
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Earnest Harris.
Film Producer, Director & Writer
Republican Racism Will Make Party Obsolete
Posted: 10/29/2012 2:32 pm
Well I guess this puts all the talk about a "post-racial America" to rest.
The Associated Press released a report on Saturday that shows a majority of Americans, in fact an increasing number, still harbor prejudice against blacks and Hispanics. 51 percent of all Americans expressed anti-black attitudes, compared with 48 percent in 2008 when the president first won election. Another AP survey showed 57 percent of Americans expressed anti-Hispanic feelings.
The results were not actually surprising. Once we got past the euphoria of Obama's historic win, which was only possible with a multi-colored and multi-ethnic coalition, it became clear that the progress we gained was also going to result in a significant and predictably ugly backlash as well. Those who were not ready to see the long line of similarly pigmented men in the most powerful position on Earth were surely not going to sit back and not try to stir things up a bit.
It should be pointed out here that by no means do I believe all people who are against Obama are so inclined because he is part black (which to most means he is all black). Certainly the president has enough liberal and progressive ideas to make conservative folks cringe regardless of his skin color and ethnic background. I also don't believe all Democrats, in every corner of the country, are cool with a black man running things. So this isn't just about Republicans being racist.
But with that being said, there is no doubt that the Republican Party, and Mitt Romney, are aware that a great many people in their party, do harbor, let's call it, discomfort, with the different-looking man who sits in the White House. Which is why there have been so many efforts from some on the right to question Obama's "American-ness," his religion, his belief in and loyalty to our country, and even his intelligence, which is what Trump is alluding to in his silly $5 million offer for the president to release his college transcripts and application.
The Republicans are not stupid in their appeals to the people that the AP survey indicated are out there who have negative feelings about brown skinned people. There is simply no way that the subtle racist codes being thrown out in the last week alone are not intended to get a rise out of those voters who harbor resentment or discomfort at that man in the White House who is one of those people.
John Sununu's comment that Colin Powell's endorsement of Obama was due to them sharing skin color is one example. It meant that intelligence and reasoning couldn't possibly be a factor. It also said that Powell wasn't to be trusted because remember, he too is black. Sarah Palin's "shuck and jive" comment was another thinly veiled harkening to the stereotype of the shiftless and lazy negro. And as I mentioned there was The Donald getting all kinds of attention by bringing up the none-too-subtle idea that President Obama would have never gotten into Harvard without affirmative action, which of course is another issue that brings up that anti-black and anti-Hispanic feeling in many on the Right.
How anyone can think all of these incidents are just pure coincidences is amazing to me. More telling is that in none of the cases did we hear Romney himself stand up and say such talk was not welcome on his behalf and in his name. Of course not. Romney will welcome any vote he can get, even if it means it comes as a result of appealing to the racists in his party. Which, according to one of its own members, includes a lot of people.
"My party is full of racists."
That is what retired Army Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson said on Friday, a Republican and former chief of staff to Colin Powell. He added, "My party, unfortunately, is the bastion of those people -- not all of them, but most of them -- who are still basing their positions on race. Let me just be candid: My party is full of racists, and the real reason a considerable portion of my party wants President Obama out of the White House has nothing to do with the content of his character, nothing to do with his competence as commander-in-chief and president, and everything to do with the color of his skin, and that's despicable."
Well there you go.
What this mostly boils down to, why I think for those who are just plain going crazy seeing Obama in the White House, is that for the 51 percent types, that group that harbored negative feelings towards blacks, there is a strong sense that they are losing the America they fantasize about and expect it to be. They don't like seeing so many people of color in places they didn't expect, they don't like seeing gays being so out in public and demanding equality, they didn't expect to see women not asking for, but demanding equal pay, and still having the power of choice for themselves.There is just this overall sense that the America they envision in their heads is not the one we are and are becoming.
This to me explains all the posters and yard signs and phrases we hear along the lines of "We want our America back." What they don't get or don't want to get, is that we are not ever going back to what we were. And that is a very good thing. Our country has come a long way to get to where we are as far as beginning to actually allow our multiculturalism to become more out there. We have come too far to go backwards on gender equality and women's choices. Too far to ever want to be a nation that doesn't give people a chance to love who they want and marry who they want. America is not going back. And even if Romney could win this election, it won't change that. The genie is out of the bottle and won't go back in.
The Republican Party has a lot of good people in it, people who are in it simply because they support the basic principles of small government, at least when it comes to government's role in people's lives. For those people, all the racist codes and attitudes that are coming from their party are not representative of them. But here is the thing. If you are a member of that party and you see this happening and do nothing or say nothing to call your own party out, then you are in essence standing with those idiots. I have always heard people on the Right try to call out all Muslims for not standing up to Islamic extremists, insinuating that they must agree or condone the actions of the extremists, proof being their silence. Well back at you. What does Romney's silence mean? Or the silence of non-racist Republicans.
We may not be post-racial yet as a society, but what Barack Obama's election four years ago symbolized can never be lost. No matter what those in the 51 percent who harbor negative views of blacks may think or feel, it was a message that America is moving forward. And the days of only seeing white men dominate our politics and discourse are not long. A lot of us, including many white Americans, who support this forward progress, know that we are far better off as a country because of who we all are. We all benefit from a much more diverse group of people running things and adding to the discussion. That is what the young lady at the University of Texas at Austin doesn't get in her Supreme Court case where she is charging UT's efforts to have a more diverse student body violates her rights as a white woman.
The world is diverse and we are only going to become more so. Those that don't get that or accept that are going to become less and less relevant. And that is a very good thing.
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any serious attempt to put an end to the out of control violent crime caused by minoritys blacks, hispanics, etc. in most major cities (Flint included) will be met with charges and howls of "racism". On the other hand going full bore after any white group that aspires to provide for their own security will not only be tolerated but applauded and welcomed by the looney liberal left. |
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Sun Feb 03, 2013 9:20 am |
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Demolition means Progress by Andrew Highsmith details how CS Mott and others conspired to maintain segregation in Flint and how they created an unequal playing field.
Todays Republicans, Snyder and the downtown Flint groups included, are still struggling to mete out an unequal society. A failing education system, a lack of decent paying jobs where individuals of all races can support their families are contributing heavily to Flint's violence.
And minorities are not the only violent individuals in Flint. Many Cobras were white and thre are other gangs with non minorities.
White militias that plan on killing blacks for sport, not defense, and plot to kill the President need to be villified. Twotap, how many times have you posted anything here that did not have a racist bent? |
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Sun Feb 03, 2013 9:57 am |
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Webs, you know nothing of me. You assume I'm Caucasian spewing forth racist tripe and I will tell you nothing is further than the truth. I'm a realist that sees the majority of crime being perpetrated by persons of color and the statistics lend validity to my theory. Your liberal argument that guns are not needed because that is why we have a police department is steeped in fallacy. Hey webs have you a fire extinguisher in your house and if you do get rid of it that's why we have fire departments. Start living in the real world Webs and turn off your MSNBC.
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Sun Feb 03, 2013 10:02 am |
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Webs suffers from the thousands of hours spent spewing nonsense on Flinttalk gotten from every leftwing whacko site out there. Getting a real life and getting out in the real world would do wonders for him her???
I do wonder if he she? has appiled for SSD under the Americans with disabilitys act since im sure he she? has incurred that oh so popular Carpel Tunnel caused by pounding on a keyboard hour after hour.
Hey!! anyone remember when FlintTalk was how do the libs put it "diverse" with dozens of posters and varied opinions instead of what its become, a one man or woman pony show for some one known as untanglingwebs.
I would imagine that many of the old posters simply got tired of coming here and seeing nothing but the rantings of just one poster 99% of the time.
Hey webs nice try but check the crime stats for just who are causing 99% of Flints out of control crime and tell us again about all those "white gangs"  |
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