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Yeah , I remember that center on the Eastdside. it was ran by that creepy guy who practiced vodoo or something . That guy gave me the creeps,I suspected ( and heard rumors but I never passed them on) that he did some very questionable things. I went to that center when it was on Franklin a couple of times,, SCARY people running it, scrary people coming in and going. In fact that center you brought up was a gang type meeting place. None of the real working people who had problems went to that center Lil ACORN. The thug types used that place as a hangout. And since I speak English, am here legally, scrimped and saved to buy a computer on my own and paid for the ISP from my own money,am not some crack addicted asshole who needs food to tide me over because I used my money for drugs, what reason would I have to go that center on Lewis Street? Listen to illegal whine and complain that they deserve better treatment from a country they are living in illegally? Or now listen to blacks .. over the fact they hate being stereotyped but then go and and engage in all that very strerotypical activities? Should I go to one of those centers to break bread with hookers and drug addicts to prove how sweet of a guy I am? No thanks, I'll leave that to ACORN types . Maybe as you sup with them you can tell them how to do more efficent drive-bys or how to use IRS tax laws to underwrite their illegal enterprizes.
As for the so aformentioned Eastside Center, the average Eastsider stayed far from that den of rejects. It was for the bottom feeders there. Going there was talking a HUGE risk for the person who wasn't a drunk, a drug addict or a weirdo. I knew stoners who wouldn't go into that building.


That's funny... because I was in highschool when I went there and I continued going there to help out. So, I'm wrong, but you making unfounded assumptions about people you don't know is right? The director didn't practice voodoo, and he's currently a practicing social worker. Once again, you're saying that these places are for hookers and drug dealers, and I'm sorry, but everyone can't afford internet- and that has nothing to do with having a job. When I worked there, the majority of the people I saw were children in the neighborhood. Alcohol, drugs, and gang affiliation weren't allowed there. If the average eastider stayed away from there, their children didn't. What describes the average eastsider for you? Because I've seen every kind of person, from the lowlife to Genesee county judges there. So if you're to be believed, community centers can't actually be places that help the community either. So, immigrants from Germany could be here illegally too if they don't speak English, right? Because you're implying that anyone who doesn't speak English (even though there are plenty here who barely speak English, as well as people who are FROM here and still don't seem to quite get it) is an illegal alien. You're a little extreme with your judgement of people. You didn't even notice it wasn't Domet talking to you, because you're quick to judge and label, instead of actually doing your research. It's funny that you seem to know so much about these centers, when in fact, you admit yourself you've only gone to the Eastside Center a few times and have never been to the Technology Center, which I will admit I mispoke- it is funded by the Mott Foundation, much like the other two centers. Yet, I've been to both of them, on an extended basis, and apparently I'm lying when I say that gangs don't hang out there. Any gang activity, drug use, alcohol use- all of that isn't allowed in those places, like I said before.
As for your little case of sarcasm... You made yourself out to be that guy. You claim these places are for hookers, gangs, drug addicts, and minorities, which would also imply that minorities and the poor are the only ones doing these things, but we all know rich people do just as many drugs and hire escorts- sometimes they even actually go to where hookers hang out and get one. I know that's a shocking reality.
Here's the bottom line:
You never once said where you get your information from, yet I have given my own personal accounts from these places. You don't go to these places, yet you have all these ideas about them- and you haven't bothered to confirm your ideas. You're spreading your own rumors, so it really isn't necessary to spread the ones you've heard.
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Yeah , I remember that center on the Eastdside. it was ran by that creepy guy who practiced vodoo or something . That guy gave me the creeps,I suspected ( and heard rumors but I never passed them on) that he did some very questionable things. I went to that center when it was on Franklin a couple of times,, SCARY people running it, scrary people coming in and going. In fact that center you brought up was a gang type meeting place. None of the real working people who had problems went to that center Lil ACORN. The thug types used that place as a hangout. And since I speak English, am here legally, scrimped and saved to buy a computer on my own and paid for the ISP from my own money,am not some crack addicted asshole who needs food to tide me over because I used my money for drugs, what reason would I have to go that center on Lewis Street? Listen to illegal whine and complain that they deserve better treatment from a country they are living in illegally? Or now listen to blacks .. over the fact they hate being stereotyped but then go and and engage in all that very strerotypical activities? Should I go to one of those centers to break bread with hookers and drug addicts to prove how sweet of a guy I am? No thanks, I'll leave that to ACORN types . Maybe as you sup with them you can tell them how to do more efficent drive-bys or how to use IRS tax laws to underwrite their illegal enterprizes.
As for the so aformentioned Eastside Center, the average Eastsider stayed far from that den of rejects. It was for the bottom feeders there. Going there was talking a HUGE risk for the person who wasn't a drunk, a drug addict or a weirdo. I knew stoners who wouldn't go into that building.


That's funny... because I was in highschool when I went there and I continued going there to help out. So, I'm wrong, but you making unfounded assumptions about people you don't know is right? The director didn't practice voodoo, and he's currently a practicing social worker. Once again, you're saying that these places are for hookers and drug dealers, and I'm sorry, but everyone can't afford internet- and that has nothing to do with having a job. When I worked there, the majority of the people I saw were children in the neighborhood. Alcohol, drugs, and gang affiliation weren't allowed there. If the average eastider stayed away from there, their children didn't. What describes the average eastsider for you? Because I've seen every kind of person, from the lowlife to Genesee county judges there. So if you're to be believed, community centers can't actually be places that help the community either. So, immigrants from Germany could be here illegally too if they don't speak English, right? Because you're implying that anyone who doesn't speak English (even though there are plenty here who barely speak English, as well as people who are FROM here and still don't seem to quite get it) is an illegal alien. You're a little extreme with your judgement of people. You didn't even notice it wasn't Domet talking to you, because you're quick to judge and label, instead of actually doing your research. It's funny that you seem to know so much about these centers, when in fact, you admit yourself you've only gone to the Eastside Center a few times and have never been to the Technology Center, which I will admit I mispoke- it is funded by the Mott Foundation, much like the other two centers. Yet, I've been to both of them, on an extended basis, and apparently I'm lying when I say that gangs don't hang out there. Any gang activity, drug use, alcohol use- all of that isn't allowed in those places, like I said before.
As for your little case of sarcasm... You made yourself out to be that guy. You claim these places are for hookers, gangs, drug addicts, and minorities, which would also imply that minorities and the poor are the only ones doing these things, but we all know rich people do just as many drugs and hire escorts- sometimes they even actually go to where hookers hang out and get one. I know that's a shocking reality.
Here's the bottom line:
You never once said where you get your information from, yet I have given my own personal accounts from these places. You don't go to these places, yet you have all these ideas about them- and you haven't bothered to confirm your ideas. You're spreading your own rumors, so it really isn't necessary to spread the ones you've heard.



I have no reason to go to that center on Lewis Street, I say it again. I am not Hispanic, have the internet. And if you went to the center on Franklin then you are probably a thug. Never met up with anyone decent who hung around that place . As for that character who ran that place,oooh boy! I lived in that area dumbass. Saw it first hand. Went there twice I ,was trying to help someone else out , the people of that neighborhood good people tried to stay away from hung out there. And I would say that you are either lying or at total idiot if you didn't see the gang types hanging out there.
And sure rich people take drugs and hire hookers. Nicer looking ones than the ones who offer themsleves on Olive Avenue or Lewis Street. But when rich people get addicted they pay for the rehab themselves or their insurance companies pay for it. Personally drug addicts dying is not something I find all that terrible. Sort of nature's way of thinning the herd.As for seeing everyone from "lowlifes to Gensee County Judges' is a redudant statement . The so called "leaders " in and around Genesee County are scum too.
Summing it up Enjoylife23, I think all those "community centers" are for is the lowest common denominator , be they domestic or illegals. Don't care to go to them places. Why bother? lived next door to them people for years, saw how they lived. They were not likely to BS me into beleiving they were good people, I knew better. Saw what they did,how they lived. People like my family were forced to pay for their stinking existences and had them ripping us off and threatening us all the time. Glad I am out of Flint. The place sucks out loud! So work away in those centers Enjoylife, be decieved by those "users", just don't insist that I should be as gullible as you are.
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enjoylife23 schreef:
quote:
1pissedoffguy schreef:
Yeah , I remember that center on the Eastdside. it was ran by that creepy guy who practiced vodoo or something . That guy gave me the creeps,I suspected ( and heard rumors but I never passed them on) that he did some very questionable things. I went to that center when it was on Franklin a couple of times,, SCARY people running it, scrary people coming in and going. In fact that center you brought up was a gang type meeting place. None of the real working people who had problems went to that center Lil ACORN. The thug types used that place as a hangout. And since I speak English, am here legally, scrimped and saved to buy a computer on my own and paid for the ISP from my own money,am not some crack addicted asshole who needs food to tide me over because I used my money for drugs, what reason would I have to go that center on Lewis Street? Listen to illegal whine and complain that they deserve better treatment from a country they are living in illegally? Or now listen to blacks .. over the fact they hate being stereotyped but then go and and engage in all that very strerotypical activities? Should I go to one of those centers to break bread with hookers and drug addicts to prove how sweet of a guy I am? No thanks, I'll leave that to ACORN types . Maybe as you sup with them you can tell them how to do more efficent drive-bys or how to use IRS tax laws to underwrite their illegal enterprizes.
As for the so aformentioned Eastside Center, the average Eastsider stayed far from that den of rejects. It was for the bottom feeders there. Going there was talking a HUGE risk for the person who wasn't a drunk, a drug addict or a weirdo. I knew stoners who wouldn't go into that building.


That's funny... because I was in highschool when I went there and I continued going there to help out. So, I'm wrong, but you making unfounded assumptions about people you don't know is right? The director didn't practice voodoo, and he's currently a practicing social worker. Once again, you're saying that these places are for hookers and drug dealers, and I'm sorry, but everyone can't afford internet- and that has nothing to do with having a job. When I worked there, the majority of the people I saw were children in the neighborhood. Alcohol, drugs, and gang affiliation weren't allowed there. If the average eastider stayed away from there, their children didn't. What describes the average eastsider for you? Because I've seen every kind of person, from the lowlife to Genesee county judges there. So if you're to be believed, community centers can't actually be places that help the community either. So, immigrants from Germany could be here illegally too if they don't speak English, right? Because you're implying that anyone who doesn't speak English (even though there are plenty here who barely speak English, as well as people who are FROM here and still don't seem to quite get it) is an illegal alien. You're a little extreme with your judgement of people. You didn't even notice it wasn't Domet talking to you, because you're quick to judge and label, instead of actually doing your research. It's funny that you seem to know so much about these centers, when in fact, you admit yourself you've only gone to the Eastside Center a few times and have never been to the Technology Center, which I will admit I mispoke- it is funded by the Mott Foundation, much like the other two centers. Yet, I've been to both of them, on an extended basis, and apparently I'm lying when I say that gangs don't hang out there. Any gang activity, drug use, alcohol use- all of that isn't allowed in those places, like I said before.
As for your little case of sarcasm... You made yourself out to be that guy. You claim these places are for hookers, gangs, drug addicts, and minorities, which would also imply that minorities and the poor are the only ones doing these things, but we all know rich people do just as many drugs and hire escorts- sometimes they even actually go to where hookers hang out and get one. I know that's a shocking reality.
Here's the bottom line:
You never once said where you get your information from, yet I have given my own personal accounts from these places. You don't go to these places, yet you have all these ideas about them- and you haven't bothered to confirm your ideas. You're spreading your own rumors, so it really isn't necessary to spread the ones you've heard.



I have no reason to go to that center on Lewis Street, I say it again. I am not Hispanic, have the internet. And if you went to the center on Franklin then you are probably a thug. Never met up with anyone decent who hung around that place . As for that character who ran that place,oooh boy! I lived in that area dumbass. Saw it first hand. Went there twice I ,was trying to help someone else out , the people of that neighborhood good people tried to stay away from hung out there. And I would say that you are either lying or at total idiot if you didn't see the gang types hanging out there.
And sure rich people take drugs and hire hookers. Nicer looking ones than the ones who offer themsleves on Olive Avenue or Lewis Street. But when rich people get addicted they pay for the rehab themselves or their insurance companies pay for it. Personally drug addicts dying is not something I find all that terrible. Sort of nature's way of thinning the herd.As for seeing everyone from "lowlifes to Gensee County Judges' is a redudant statement . The so called "leaders " in and around Genesee County are scum too.
Summing it up Enjoylife23, I think all those "community centers" are for is the lowest common denominator , be they domestic or illegals. Don't care to go to them places. Why bother? lived next door to them people for years, saw how they lived. They were not likely to BS me into beleiving they were good people, I knew better. Saw what they did,how they lived. People like my family were forced to pay for their stinking existences and had them ripping us off and threatening us all the time. Glad I am out of Flint. The place sucks out loud! So work away in those centers Enjoylife, be decieved by those "users", just don't insist that I should be as gullible as you are.
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SHARING PERSONAL INFORMATION WILL STOP NOW!!!


Ah, well now there's the old owner/moderator of these here forums. I was curious if you were going to show up on the front lines.

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twotap schreef:
Your silly attempt to intimadate me by claiming to have in your hot little hands personal info about myself or my family as well as personal hacked photobucket pictures and threatening to post such info on line aint working.


Why hack what was and is publicly available? Don't worry - I have already screen shotted your Photobucket album in order to show it was publicly viewable. I have no worries on my end.

XD Your ineptness and inability to understand the Internet is on par with your general ignorance of things. If you had money stolen from your account, it was likely because you made a bad security move on the Internet or in general made some other idiotic error which would surprise nobody. You may not realize this because you're not the brightest crayon in the box, but every time you post a photo, it links back to your Photobucket page. Now, being somebody who prefers other photo hosting services, I don't know much about their system - but I will tell you that by simply putting in a link from one of your pictures into a browser's address line, you will quickly find yourself at your Photobucket hosted photo albums.

Just because I'm a nice fella, I will give you a security tip or two - when you don't want things linked to certain screen names, or you would prefer to keep certain things private, vary your screen names up and in general always select the highest security option. If the available options do not suit your preferences, look elsewhere. Generally if you don't want people to find out the various people and things you are linked to you wouldn't be dropping them in such easy to find places that are all publicly accessible and viewable. Honestly - if you are going to run around being the massive troll you are, you should really learn a thing or two about Internet basics. It's a lot more than clicking, copying, pasting and typing words.

And no, it wasn't my facebook picture, I overreacted. The picture was not loading when I was in, and to be honest I thought you had something insidious up your sleeve. All I could go off of is what I saw you had written, and considering the way you have considered and written about my family in the past on these very forums, I had every reason to suspect that you were going to be a dick to good people who certainly did not deserve it. If such had been the case, I was prepared to go to war over it, of that you can be sure.

Huntingworth - your second response to me was nothing but insulting the entire way through. You dodged my question about data, you dodged my concerns about your false implications and then instead continued to implicate. Your arguments don't make sense, your empirical data set is yet to have appeared, and somehow you still feel capable of blatantly lying by saying, "I've not insulted you! It twas you! You good sir!" It's a matter of public record less you go back through as of this post and start changing your words around. There are enough children in and around here without you clogging the forums up - you were never interested in conversation, but merely disparaging those who disagreed with you, which you have done. The only question I can find you have asked is about my affiliations with either Central or Powers, neither of which I am affiliated as I believe I mentioned specifically.

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I have no reason to go to that center on Lewis Street, I say it again. I am not Hispanic, have the internet. And if you went to the center on Franklin then you are probably a thug. Never met up with anyone decent who hung around that place . As for that character who ran that place,oooh boy! I lived in that area dumbass. Saw it first hand. Went there twice I ,was trying to help someone else out , the people of that neighborhood good people tried to stay away from hung out there. And I would say that you are either lying or at total idiot if you didn't see the gang types hanging out there.
And sure rich people take drugs and hire hookers. Nicer looking ones than the ones who offer themsleves on Olive Avenue or Lewis Street. But when rich people get addicted they pay for the rehab themselves or their insurance companies pay for it. Personally drug addicts dying is not something I find all that terrible. Sort of nature's way of thinning the herd.As for seeing everyone from "lowlifes to Gensee County Judges' is a redudant statement . The so called "leaders " in and around Genesee County are scum too.
Summing it up Enjoylife23, I think all those "community centers" are for is the lowest common denominator , be they domestic or illegals. Don't care to go to them places. Why bother? lived next door to them people for years, saw how they lived. They were not likely to BS me into beleiving they were good people, I knew better. Saw what they did,how they lived. People like my family were forced to pay for their stinking existences and had them ripping us off and threatening us all the time. Glad I am out of Flint. The place sucks out loud! So work away in those centers Enjoylife, be decieved by those "users", just don't insist that I should be as gullible as you are.


Wow. Another assumption made without even knowing me. I guess I'm a thug because I care about my community and helped to provide activities for kids in the neighborhood. Now my credibility is shot because I hung out at that place, so I couldn't possibly be telling the truth. Your prejudice is absolutely amazing, and I'm done trying to argue with the ignorant. I won't even offer up any personal information about myself, because I already know... you're going to call me a liar and say I must be a thug because you have no knowlege of me personally. It's nice to know there are still those out there who blindly judge things without doing any kind of research to back up their assumptions. Instead of actually doing that, you've done nothing but try really hard to insult me in every way you could, and repeat yourself. I guess I see what others in this forum talk about when they say that you do this. Thanks for not actually having an argument, and I'm done posting on this forum. You guys are babies and you really seriously need to grow up and get with the real world. Shouting neener neener neener doesn't make you right nor does it make you smart. It just proves that you're not willing to actually find something to support your false claims, and in the real world, that makes you dumb. People look for proof, not for accusations. Well, educated logical thinking people do. I don't know if you really quite fit in that category.
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That is all it took to get rid ohf him? And he calls us babies lol,, Never knew anyone from the Eastdside Community Center worth talking to, they were all very shady characters .
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If powers is interested in Central High School, let them have it! Let's face it, the city could use the money and opportunities. The other alternatives on this posting seem to be:

A.) Let it sit there, rotting away costing an already cash strapped school system a bundle to maintain.

B.) Using it for some other community entity.

Well, we already have enough abandoned buildings and schools in the city. I don't see a need to add any more because it seems the district does not want parochial competition. Maybe there is a "we can do this better than you" fear?

Community center? Domet has suggested in previous posts the possibility of a community center. While I am not against community centers, I don't think that this is the right move for such an economically depressed area. Community centers do not bring revenue or business to a city. Yes, I'm sure they do some wonderful things, but a move like that at this moment, it is not the best decision.

Options A and B both require money. Money is something this area does NOT have If the area were not deeply broke and in debt, sure you can let it sit there empty. Neither one of these options bring revenue to the city and would have be tax supported. A lot of people here are unemployed, they are not bringing in the tax revenue required to do these things

Simply put.. Powers has money and wants Central. Flint has no money and cannot afford to do anything with central. If the worst thing this move does is brings a some yuppies with money and their businesses to the area, I would rather exchange recipes, gardening tips and wine vintages with my neighbors than be constantly removing bullet casings, broken liquor bottles and hypodermics from my front lawn from the two dope houses next door.

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Thank you lacyw,well said and on topic.
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Well, I thought someone should stay on topic. My statement was simple and to the point. That is how I truly feel about it. Everything else at the moment is just trifles. Money and jobs are my main concern. If selling Central to Powers brings both of these things, then so be it.

It really upsets me that people who have the power to make these changes happen are doing nothing. Those who would benefit most from this sale(homeowners, tax payers, students) are the ones who are going to be paying for it when the window closes and Powers has found another location and someone willing to welcome them. Then we will be left with a moldering old ruin maintained by the taxpayers. Well, what is left of the taxpayers. Those who are still employed or have not packed up the U-haul.
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Something else has just crossed my mind. If powers makes a public offer on Central, and the administration just hims and haws until they give up and go elsewhere or says no flat out, it should be made public so:

Everyone knows who said no, so if we can, we can vote them out.

And then we can say no to every millage they ask for in the next 20 years.

I also would like to know if powers is still interested in central and if they would put a price on it. Then if it is legal, put it on the ballot this November. Technically, we the taxpayers own that building as it is our money that built it, ran it and will pay to maintain it sitting there empty. We should be the ones to decide if it gets sold to Powers.
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I agree wholeheardley with you lacyw! Amen ! Now we shall hear from the Domet weighing in on why this "gentrification" is soo wrong for the neighborhood. His proposal to use it as a "community center' is patently stupid. Like I already told the GrandPooh Bah of babble himself , Flint just don't have enough "community" left to fill that building. He and that other mook (Enjoylife) all just loove community centers ( guess they make great places for ACRON organizers to work from and so knocked up teenagers can get stuff for their brats ) , Yeah, I guess I feel superior to everyone Domet ( anticipating his rebuttal) , I don't like community centers because they are always for "other people".
Don't worry about "selling" Central,, give it the people from Powers, That building is a proverbial "white elephant" (come to think of it, is that a racist thing against "white" people?) . Give that building to Powers, give it to them and help them find the funding to do the needed improvements (if I lived in Flint I would be offering my assitance to them ) . But Powers has some well heeled people , so they probably don't need that sort of aid . At any rate that building should be in the hands of people like the sort who go to Powers, not to the sort of people who would go to a "community center". Who goes to community centers? Drunks, drug addicts, welfare mommas, people who were too lazy to get their regular high school classes and now going for their GED's. Stellar citizens ! The problem with Flint is that those people have been catered to FAR too much, they bred like rats . They didn't have to pay any regard to how much kids cost because the cost was on the taxpayers backs.
But I digress. Give the Central building to Powers,NOW!!
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pissed. visit brennan center sometimes. plenty of seniors enjoying games and other things. why do you hate yourself so much?? look at the things you write. are you currently in relapse?

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