FAQFAQ   SearchSearch  MemberlistMemberlistRegisterRegister  ProfileProfile   Log in[ Log in ]  Flint Talk RSSFlint Talk RSS

»Home »Open Chat »Political Talk  »Flint Journal »Political Jokes »The Bob Leonard Show  

Flint Michigan online news magazine. We have lively web forums


FlintTalk.com Forum Index > Political Talk

Topic: Trump-wall, immigration, Mexico, Iran and more
Goto page 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6  Next
  Author    Post Post new topic Reply to topic
untanglingwebs
El Supremo

Indiana Gives $7 Million in Tax Breaks to Keep Carrier Jobs
By TED MANN
Updated Dec. 1, 2016 3:26 p.m. ET
1313 COMMENTS
Indiana officials agreed to give United Technologies Corp. $7 million worth of tax breaks over 10 years to encourage the company’s Carrier Corp. unit to keep about 1,000 jobs in the state, according to people familiar with the matter, a deal struck after intense criticism of Carrier by President-elect Donald Trump on the campaign trail.

Carrier Agrees to Keep About 1,000 Jobs in Indiana (Nov. 29)
The heating and air conditioning company will invest about $16 million to keep its operations in the state, including a furnace plant in Indianapolis that it had previously planned to close and shift the work to Mexico, the people said.

Mr. Trump, who toured the Carrier plant in Indianapolis Thursday with Vice President-elect Mike Pence, said companies aren’t going to leave the U.S. “anymore without consequences.”

The deal would cover 800 Carrier workers from the Indianapolis furnace plant and an additional 300 research and headquarters positions that weren’t slated to go to Mexico, according to another person briefed on the deal.

The company still plans to move 600 jobs from the Carrier plant to Mexico. It also will proceed with plans to close a second plant in Huntington, Ind., that makes electronic controls, moving 700 other jobs to Mexico.

ENLARGE
Carrier has previously said it expected to save about $65 million a year by shutting the plant and shifting its operations to Monterrey, in the state of Nuevo León, where wages average about $11 a day, plus benefits. The average wage of the Indiana jobs that will be retained is $30 an hour, according to a document reviewed by the Journal.

Mr. Trump has played up the partial rescue as a sign he can deliver on campaign promises. Through the presidential primary and general election, the Republican businessman had made an example of Carrier, at one point threatening to put a 35% tariff on Carrier imports unless it reversed its decision to move the jobs to Mexico.

“This is a big win for the incoming administration but an even bigger win for the people of Indiana,” transition spokesman Jason Miller said Thursday. The transition team has declined to provide details about the cost of keeping those jobs in the state.


Mr. Trump also will host an evening rally at U.S. Bank Arena in Cincinnati, a Republican stronghold. Ohio was one of six states the Republican captured after being won twice by Democratic President Barack Obama. That is the start of a broader “thank you” tour that is expected to include stops in Florida and across the Midwest.

Sen. Bernie Sanders, who during his presidential campaign had also attacked Carrier and other firms shifting work abroad, criticized the deal on Thursday, saying Mr. Trump failed to make good on his campaign pledge to save all of the jobs from moving to Mexico.

The deal also creates a bad precedent, Mr. Sanders contended, writing that Mr. Trump “has signaled to every corporation in America that they can threaten to offshore jobs in exchange for business-friendly tax benefits and incentives.”

“I’m pretty happy that we’re keeping jobs in America, aren’t you?” House Speaker Paul Ryan (R., Wis.) said Thursday. He said he didn’t know the details of the agreement, but that governors’ responsibilities include working to keep jobs in their states. “Mike Pence is still the sitting governor of Indiana. This is what governors do,” said Mr. Ryan.

The deal that emerged from weeks of negotiations between United Technologies brass and officials in the Trump camp led by Mr. Pence, the Indiana governor, is a relatively standard package of state incentives, according to people familiar with the agreement.

On Wednesday, Carrier said “incentives offered by the state were an important consideration,” without providing further details.

“This agreement in no way diminishes our belief in the benefits of free trade and that the forces of globalization will continue to require solutions for the long-term competitiveness of the U.S. and of American workers moving forward,” the company said.

In addition to Carrier, United Technologies makes Pratt & Whitney jet engines and Otis elevators. It employs about 200,000 people, about one third of them in the U.S.

People familiar with the negotiations said the company and Mr. Pence’s team also discussed a wide range of priorities, including United Technologies’ interest in a corporate tax overhaul, and regulations the company feels have been a burden to its business.

The federal government is also an important customer. The U.S. military accounts for about 10% of United Technologies’ $56 billion in annual sales, for products like the engine for the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter.

Sen. Ron Wyden of Oregon, the top Democrat on the Finance Committee, said he would be asking more about the Carrier deal and said he would inquire whether there were promises about defense contracts.

“I want to know whether the president-elect promised special federal tax breaks for a single company,” Mr. Wyden said Thursday. “I want to do everything I can to keep jobs in the United States, but there are some questions here.”

For Mr. Trump, the trips to Indiana and Ohio meant there were no announced meetings on Thursday with prospective cabinet members. Those meetings will resume on Friday in New York, where Mr. Trump is scheduled to visit with Sen. David Perdue (R., Ga.), retired Adm. Jay Cohen, Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi, former United Nations Ambassador John Bolton, and Sen. Heidi Heitkamp (D., N.D.).

—Michael C. Bender and Richard Rubin contributed to this article.

Write to Ted Mann at ted.mann@wsj.com


Last edited by untanglingwebs on Fri Feb 03, 2017 2:32 pm; edited 2 times in total
Post Thu Dec 01, 2016 3:43 pm 
 View user's profile Send private message  Reply with quote  
untanglingwebs
El Supremo

How is this a big win? A total of $1300 jobs are going to Mexico, and 300 of the 1000 jobs allegedly saved were staying here anyway.. And they got a $7 Million tax break over 10 years to keep 700 jobs
Post Thu Dec 01, 2016 3:48 pm 
 View user's profile Send private message  Reply with quote  
untanglingwebs
El Supremo

DAVID NIR Blog Stream Groups Following Profile
The Carrier 'deal' just showed big business it can shake down Trump so he can get good headlines

By David Nir
Thursday Dec 01, 2016 · 12:27 PM CST


REBLOGGED BY
Daily Kos


Predictably—and horrifyingly—the traditional media has fawned over Donald Trump’s supposed “deal” with the Carrier Corporation, the giant air-conditioner manufacturer, to allegedly save jobs at the company’s facilities in Indiana. But this was no deal. It was a shakedown.

In exchange for $7 million in tax breaks furnished by the state of Indiana (only possible because Trump’s running-mate, Mike Pence, just so happens to still have a few weeks left in office as governor), Carrier has agreed to keep 800 jobs that were slated to move to Mexico in the U.S. (And yes, according to the Wall Street Journal, it’s 800 jobs, not the 1,000 originally announced—300 additional jobs weren’t going anywhere. So we’re already post-fact here.)

But while the press has deeply enjoyed the chance to celebrate this arrangement as a “win” for Trump, it’s nothing of the sort. Now, every big American company can simply threaten to shift jobs overseas because they know Trump will intervene purely out of vanity so that he can earn more glowing headlines.

Trump can then offer more tax breaks (or bully governors and mayors into doing so on his behalf) to the businesses that suck up to him best. Presto: More jobs “saved,” more ecstatic media coverage for the man whose only real goal in life is to see the world pay him the respect that he’s convinced he’s due in spades. Never mind the cost to taxpayers, which will only escalate as more and more major corporations seek to take advantage of Trump’s ego. And never mind the cost to the economy, as businesses opt for the easy route of looting the public coffers rather than seeking to actually compete with one another.

So expect plenty more of this. Trump’s America will be all about crony capitalism in service of feeding the gaping black hole where the president-elect’s soul ought to be. And we will all pay the price.
Post Thu Dec 01, 2016 3:54 pm 
 View user's profile Send private message  Reply with quote  
TruthTalk
F L I N T O I D

President Trump has done more for the country he loves in less than 2 weeks than Obama did in the 8 years for the country he hates..
Post Mon Jan 30, 2017 7:43 pm 
 View user's profile Send private message  Reply with quote  
TruthTalk
F L I N T O I D

President Trump has done more for the country he loves in less than 2 weeks than Obama did in the 8 years for the country he hates..
Post Mon Jan 30, 2017 7:43 pm 
 View user's profile Send private message  Reply with quote  
TruthTalk
F L I N T O I D

Are you getting tired of WINNING yet? Win after win the man never sleeps all he does is winwinwin
Post Mon Jan 30, 2017 7:46 pm 
 View user's profile Send private message  Reply with quote  
untanglingwebs
El Supremo

How is this a win for America when it has lessesned our country in the eyes of the world.

1.4 million UK citizens signed petitions to not allow Trump to have a state visit and they don't want him to visit the Queen because of his lack of a moral character.

China is saying a war may b advantageous.

Canada had a Trump admirer attack and kill members of a mosque.

The Dow is uneasy and stock futures worldwide are shaky. Only big oil and other corporations fl bullish. Google, Apple and some other corporate giants have denounced the resident.

For three days there have been protests at our major airports.

Major cities and some governors have denounced Trump's orders and openly vow to defy him.

California wants to secede.

Georgia and Mississippi have no FEMA response to their pleas for help in the wake of their deadly tornados.
Post Tue Jan 31, 2017 1:21 am 
 View user's profile Send private message  Reply with quote  
untanglingwebs
El Supremo

The 911 Commission emphasized the need to build allies in the Muslim world to ensure our safety. Trump has destabilized our stature and relationship in that part of the world. The countries not on Trump's list are countries in which he has business interests even though they have been linked to terrorist attacks in America or Europe.

Trump is promoting to higher levels of our national security, Bannon, who in 2015 told the Daily Bast in an interview with the Daily Beast, that his goal was to destabilize the establishment and make these establishments crash.

Trump's anti Muslim comments have created a wide spread condemnation among many nations who have voiced fears of a fascist American government.
Post Tue Jan 31, 2017 1:43 am 
 View user's profile Send private message  Reply with quote  
TruthTalk
F L I N T O I D

The people rioting (and "protesting") have too much time on their hands, decent folks are all at work on weekdays trying to make a living.
Look at what is happening in Europe when you open the flood gates for the Muslim people. And let me tell you it's not good not good. Believe me
Next up for Mr president will be to have all Obama phones turned in for Trump alarm clocks. Time to go back to work and make America great again.
Just because your ass is cracked doesn't mean your back is broke. Lazy libs
I hope President Trumps SCOTUS pick is healthy and lives to be 100
Win win win win win win win win win win win win win win win win win win win win win
Post Tue Jan 31, 2017 7:28 pm 
 View user's profile Send private message  Reply with quote  
TruthTalk
F L I N T O I D

The people rioting (and "protesting") have too much time on their hands, decent folks are all at work on weekdays trying to make a living.
Look at what is happening in Europe when you open the flood gates for the Muslim people. And let me tell you it's not good not good. Believe me
Next up for Mr president will be to have all Obama phones turned in for Trump alarm clocks. Time to go back to work and make America great again.
Just because your ass is cracked doesn't mean your back is broke. Lazy libs
I hope President Trumps SCOTUS pick is healthy and lives to be 100
Win win win win win win win win win win win win win win win win win win win win win
Post Tue Jan 31, 2017 7:29 pm 
 View user's profile Send private message  Reply with quote  
untanglingwebs
El Supremo

Trump's minions are already attacking and hospitalizing dissenters. Be careful what you wish for!

You have no original thoughts and are just silly.
Post Wed Feb 01, 2017 7:25 am 
 View user's profile Send private message  Reply with quote  
untanglingwebs
El Supremo

There are all kinds of stupid people that annoy me but what annoys me most is a lazy argument. Christopher Hitchens
Read more at: https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/keywords/argument.html

Children use silly expressions to argue. Grow up!
Post Wed Feb 01, 2017 7:50 am 
 View user's profile Send private message  Reply with quote  
untanglingwebs
El Supremo

The shooter was a whit youth that admired TRUMP!



Donald Trump Jr. ‘liked’ tweet hoping Quebec shooter was a Muslim because it would help his dad

Elizabeth Preza
31 Jan 2017 at 23:33 ET
AddThis Sharing Buttons


Donald Trump Jr. liked a post on Twitter extolling the “tremendous spike in political capital” his father, President Donald Trump, will receive once “it’s revealed that the Quebec Shooting terrorists are Muslims.”

Donald Trump Jr.’s Twitter Likes (Screengrab / Rawstory)

The original tweet was posted Monday by John Cardillo, a former NYPD officer and syndicated radio host, who incorrectly posited that the attacker was a Muslim. In fact, 27-year-old Alexandre Bissonnette, the lone suspect in the attack that left six people dead and eight wounded Sunday night, is an anti-Muslim, far-right Trump supporter.

Carrillo’s tweet links the Sunday night Mosque massacre to Trump’s executive order restricting immigration from several predominantly Muslim countries. The Trump administration has continuously insisted the order is not a “ban” and does not target one religion, despite the president’s own use of the word “ban.”

Though the Trump administration sought to alleviate fears of conflicts of interest pertaining to the president’s “global business empire” by passing control of the Trump Organization to his sons, questions remain over whether the role the president’s children will play in the White House. According to CNN, Trump’s sons were actively involved in vetting candidates for their father’s cabinet, and were present Tuesday evening with Trump announced his Supreme Court nominee.

Los Angeles Times national reporter Matt Pearce first noticed the like on Tuesday evening. As of this time, Don Jr. has yet to unlike the inaccurate tweet championing the political expediency of a terror attack.
Post Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:19 am 
 View user's profile Send private message  Reply with quote  
untanglingwebs
El Supremo

Other major corporations, like Google and Ford, are also opposing Trump. More cities are organizing as sanctuary cities and California is cosidering becoming a sanctuary tate!


Tech #​TrumpsAmerica
Jan 30, 2017 @ 05:09 PM 33,522 views
Free Webcast: Learn How to Generate Monthly Income
Jeff Bezos Opposes Immigration Order As Amazon Supports Washington AG Suit Against Trump

Ryan Mac ,

Forbes Staff



Amazon.com CEO Jeff Bezos gets on an elevator for a meeting between President-elect Donald Trump and technology industry leaders at Trump Tower in New York in December. (Photo: Evan Vucci/AP)

Amazon.com AMZN -1.05% CEO Jeff Bezos, who was one of the most outspoken challengers in the technology industry to Donald Trump's candidacy during the presidential election, issued a strong statement on Monday afternoon opposing a recent executive order that banned refugees and visa holders from seven majority Muslim countries from traveling to the United States.

In a note to employees, the Amazon founder said that his company's policy team had reached out to congressional leaders from both parties and that its legal team was preparing to support a lawsuit from the Washington State Attorney General against the order. On Monday, Reuters reported that Microsoft would also be cooperating with the attorney general's office as well.

"We’re a nation of immigrants whose diverse backgrounds, ideas, and points of view have helped us build and invent as a nation for over 240 years," Bezos wrote. "No nation is better at harnessing the energies and talents of immigrants. It’s a distinctive competitive advantage for our country—one we should not weaken."

Bezos' companywide email reaffirmed the points in a note sent on Saturday by Amazon Vice President of Human Resources Beth Galetti that the Seattle-based internet retailer was committed to backing its employees around the globe with any travel issues. While other tech industry CEOs, including Facebook's Mark Zuckerberg and Netflix's Reed Hastings, issued more immediate statements opposing the immigration order, Bezos, who met with Trump during a technology roundtable last month, waited almost three days after its Friday signing to weigh in.

Bezos, who also owns The Washington Post, questioned President Trump's fitness to lead the nation back in October.

“He’s not just going after the media, but threatening retribution to people who scrutinize him,” Bezos said on stage at Vanity Fair's New Establishment Summit in October. “He’s also saying he may not give a graceful concession speech if he loses the election. That erodes our democracy around the edges. He’s also saying he might lock up his opponent. These aren’t appropriate behaviors.”

The Amazon CEO later posted a conciliatory message to Twitter to the President following his election victory, promising to have an "open mind" for his administration.

Later on Thursday, the Washington State Attorney General filed its suit against Trump, making the state the first to sue the President over the executive order. Ayesha Blackwell-Hawkins, a senior manager of global mobility and immigration at Amazon, filed a declaration of support for the lawsuit on behalf of her employer and stated that the company had at least 49 employees born in one of the countries identified by the order. There are also seven candidates, all born in Iran but living in other countries, who have received outstanding offers for employment from the retailer, but are hindered by the order.

"From the very beginning, Amazon has been committed to equal rights, tolerance, and diversity--and we always will be," her statement read. "As we've grown the company, we've worked hard to attract talented people from all over the world, and we believe this is one of the things that makes America great--a diverse workforce helps us build better products for customers."

Jeff Bezos' full email to employees can be read below:

RE: Advisory—New Executive Order’s Potential Impact on Amazon Employees

A quick update on where we are. This executive order is one we do not support. Our public policy team in D.C. has reached out to senior administration officials to make our opposition clear. We’ve also reached out to congressional leaders on both sides of the aisle to explore legislative options. Our legal team has prepared a declaration of support for the Washington State Attorney General who will be filing suit against the order. We are working other legal options as well.

We’re a nation of immigrants whose diverse backgrounds, ideas, and points of view have helped us build and invent as a nation for over 240 years. No nation is better at harnessing the energies and talents of immigrants. It’s a distinctive competitive advantage for our country—one we should not weaken.

To our employees in the U.S. and around the world who may be directly affected by this order, I want you to know that the full extent of Amazon’s resources are behind you.

Thank you,

Jeff

***

Follow Ryan on Twitter at @RMac18 or email him at rmac@forbes.com.
Post Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:32 am 
 View user's profile Send private message  Reply with quote  
untanglingwebs
El Supremo

The Sacramento Bee | Sacbee.com



January 26, 2017 5:20 PM
Could California become a ‘sanctuary state’ under Trump?


The go-to source for news on California policy and politics


By Christopher Cadelago

ccadelago@sacbee.com


Democratic lawmakers in California are moving swiftly to pass a package of legislation that would restrict state and local law enforcement, including school police and security departments, from using their own resources to aid federal authorities in immigration enforcement.

The brewing legal battle between the state and Republican President Donald Trump, who Wednesday took sweeping actions designed to construct a wall along the U.S.-Mexico border and withhold federal funding to localities that refuse to cooperate with federal immigration authorities, could test the limits of California’s power amid questions over billions of dollars in funding.

The legislative package is moving four years after passage of the California “Trust Act,” which forbid state and local agencies from holding undocumented immigrants at the request of federal authorities. Immigration advocates say it would provide added cover to some local governments by standardizing often conflicting municipal policies and transforming California into a de facto “sanctuary state.”

“The state is saying, ‘I don’t want to be complicit with federal enforcement authority. We are doing our job. Let us do our job and look after state matters,’” said Grisel Ruiz, staff attorney at the Immigrant Legal Resource Center.

There are up to 2.6 million undocumented immigrants in California, according to Center for Migration Studies estimations from 2014. The three largest countries of origin are Mexico, El Salvador and Guatemala.

Along with restricting local action on immigration enforcement, Senate Bill 54, by Democratic Senate leader Kevin de León, would require schools, hospitals and courthouses around the state to adopt similar policies. It also would require state agencies to update their confidentiality policies so information on individuals’ immigration status is not shared for enforcement purposes.

Republicans criticized the approaches by majority Democrats as needlessly confrontational and ultimately unhelpful to the state’s interests under a Trump administration. Assemblyman James Gallagher, R-Yuba City, said the federal government’s focus on “criminal illegal aliens” is “just common sense.”

“To fight these policies and put our federal funding at risk, that’s dangerous,” he said.

His colleague, Assemblyman Travis Allen, R-Huntington Beach, is carrying legislation to withhold state funds to sanctuary cities and prevent state money from being used to defend illegal immigrants considered to be criminals.

Other critics focused on the tone of the approach by the state’s Democratic leaders.

“This kind of legislation and rhetoric from sanctuary cities and politicians in Sacramento creates the kind of environment wherein you are going to see clashes between immigration law enforcement and the advocates,” said Mark Krikorian, executive director of the Center for Immigration Studies.

De León, of Los Angeles, said Wednesday that he was collaborating with former U.S Attorney General Eric Holder and state Attorney General Xavier Becerra to examine ways to oppose Trump’s orders.

“It’s not the job of our local and county and state law enforcement to turn the cogs of President Trump’s deportation machine,” de León said. “He cannot force us and we will not hesitate to fight him in Congress and settle the matter in court.”

Other leaders, from Gov. Jerry Brown to mayors, indicated they would fight.

Brown pledged in his State of the State address this week to defend everybody who has come to the state “for a better life and has contributed to the well-being of our state.”

“I recognize that under the Constitution, federal law is supreme and that Washington determines immigration policy,” Brown said. “But as a state we can and have had a role to play. California has enacted several protective measures for the undocumented: the Trust Act, lawful driver’s licenses, basic employment rights and nondiscriminatory access to higher education.

“We may be called upon to defend those laws and defend them we will.”

In Los Angeles, Mayor Eric Garcetti, citing the 10th Amendment, said he doubted the federal government could cease funding to his city, while Sacramento Mayor Darrell Steinberg added that he would “join, if not lead, any effort to fight (the sanctuary city threat) with litigation.”

San Francisco Mayor Ed Lee, delivering his annual State of the City address Thursday, declared that “we are a sanctuary city now, tomorrow, forever.”

“If and when the federal cuts will come,” Lee said, “We’ll be united behind our promises and our values.”

U.S. Supreme Court decisions appear to favor the state’s resistance, said Erwin Chemerinsky, dean of the UC Irvine School of Law. The court has ruled that Congress cannot force state and local governments to enforce federal laws, he said, and it can’t put strings on federal grants that are “unduly coercive.”

“I think it would be challenged in courts and I think (their attempt) would be struck down by the courts,” he said.

Other legislation could throw a wrench into some deportation efforts and assist undocumented immigrants.

Sen. Ricardo Lara, D-Bell Gardens, is proposing Senate Bill 31 to prevent the creation of Muslim registries by banning state and local officials from giving the federal government information on a person’s religious affiliation when it’s sought to compile a database for law enforcement or immigration purposes. It also contains previsions similar to those in de León’s legislation.

Sen. Ben Hueso, D-San Diego, is carrying Senate Bill 6 to – among other things – enlist the state in legal assistance to those facing deportation.

Apolonio Morales, political director at the Coalition for Humane Immigrant Rights of Los Angeles, said state resources should not be used to – in his words – destroy the trust between local law enforcement and the community. He pointed to the potential for lost tax dollars and productivity for California.

“We hurt ourselves by deporting people in a massive way, and the president is trying to hurt us by doing that,” said Morales, predicting legal challenges. “This is humanitarian, but (it’s) also economic. We have a lot to lose for those investments we made for various years.”

Alexei Koseff contributed to this report.

Christopher Cadelago: 916-326-5538, @ccadelago

Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article129038699.html#storylink=cpy
Post Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:41 am 
 View user's profile Send private message  Reply with quote  
  Display posts from previous:      
Post new topic Reply to topic

Jump to:  
Goto page 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6  Next

Last Topic | Next Topic  >

Forum Rules:
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum

 

Flint Michigan online news magazine. We have lively web forums

Website Copyright © 2010 Flint Talk.com
Contact Webmaster - FlintTalk.com >