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untanglingwebs
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Something big is going to go down in St. Louis. If you have been paying attention at all you know this might be our second civil war.

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Armored Vehicles and Military Choppers Spotted Near Ferguson Prior to Grand Jury Decision


Is Ferguson on the verge of civil unrest followed by martial law? Recent photos and videos from the area paint an ominous picture. Ferguson, MO -- The Grand Jury...


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Armored Vehicles and Military Choppers Spotted Near Ferguson Prior to Grand Jury Decision


By Matt Agorist on November 7, 2014

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Is Ferguson on the verge of civil unrest followed by martial law? Recent photos and videos from the area paint an ominous picture.

Ferguson, MO — The Grand Jury decision is expected any minute now out of Ferguson in regards to officer Darren Wilson and the killing of Micheal Brown.

It is highly likely that Wilson will not be indicted which could lead to massive unrest in the area.

Looting and violent rioting will only serve to undo the positive attention which Ferguson protesters have received over the past few months. That being said, there will undoubtedly be some people who use this Grand Jury decision as a means to violate the rights of others, both police and citizens.

However, as we have seen before, even when the protest is not-violent, the police frequently are.

This tendency to escalate a peaceful protest into a violent warzone is why the recent news and pictures out of Ferguson are particularly ominous.

The photo below was taken on Wednesday and uploaded to facebook of an armored vehicle in transport on North Florrisant Rd in Ferguson.

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Today, a similar vehicle was spotted at the St. Ann Dairy Queen, just south of Ferguson.

This video was also uploaded to youtube, which allegedly shows 4 national guard helicopters flying over Kirkwood, just north of Ferguson.



There was also a rumor circulating on the web that large companies have issued warnings to their employees and told them to pack up and get out of the area. While this is all speculation, this type of martial law scenario is completely within the scope of US law enforcement.

The Free Thought Project has reporter Rebel Z in the area and we will be bringing you live coverage of the events as they unfold at this link.



Read more at http://thefreethoughtproject.com/armored-vehicles-military-choppers-spotted-ferguson-prior-grand-jury-decision/#fucOfPv3cOju2q21.99
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BREAKING>>> FOUR National Guard Helicopters Just Flew Over Kirkwood Heading to #Ferguson

IT'S GOING DOWN----- Four National Guard helicopters just flew over Kirkwood, Missouri heading north towards Ferguson. Video Coming...... BIG UPDATE----- This happened. I am not naming the company. BUT --- A large corporation with headquarters near Ferguson told employees this…



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Ferguson mayor: 'Prepare for the worst' - http://CNN.com http://ow.ly/DZfQD @TheFreedomFan @Scgator1414 #ferguson @_CFJ_ @aqv21


3:38 PM - 7 Nov 2014



Ferguson mayor: Protests possible over grand jury
Community coalition in Ferguson, Missouri, wants 48-hour notice before grand jury announces whether it will indict police officer who killed Michael Brown.
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Ferguson mayor sees possible protests in region when grand jury decides


By Ashley Fantz, CNN

updated 4:19 AM EST, Fri November 7, 2014


STORY HIGHLIGHTS

Mayor James Knowles: "Demonstrations will probably break out in several places" Grand jury decision expected this month whether to indict officer who killed Michael Brown
Brown's August shooting sparked protests that devolved into riots this summer
Don't Shoot Coalition wants 48-hour notice before grand jury announces decision




(CNN) -- Tensions in Ferguson, Missouri, have simmered since black teen Michael Brown was shot and killed by a white police officer in August.

And with a grand jury expected to soon deliver its decision on whether to indict the officer, a group that represents protesters says it wants 48-hours notice before the decision is announced so it can help prevent the St. Louis suburb from once again boiling over with anger, violence and confusion.

A group of community members calling themselves the Don't Shoot Coalition this week released 19 "Rules of Engagement" that touch on major points of contention between protesters and police since Brown's August 9 killing.

Witnesses said Brown, who was unarmed, had his hands in the air as if surrendering, when he was shot. Authorities said Brown attacked the officer.


Ferguson Mayor James Knowles told local media this week that authorities must "prepare for the worst" and he expects demonstrations across the area.

He and his administration didn't respond to CNN's inquiries about whether city officials would agree to the coalition's requests. Ferguson police also did not respond to CNN's questions about what that department thinks of the "rules," but St. Louis County police said their department "endorses the statement from the Don't Shoot Coalition regarding the sanctity and preservation of human life. To that end, and in the spirit of building communications, members of the Unified Command have met with the coalition to define common goals."

Many protesters were furious because they feel Brown's killing was an example of excessive use of force. They and heavily armed law enforcement clashed in the streets for days after Brown's death.

Authorities, who drove armored vehicles and wore military gear, were roundly criticized by members of the media, other law enforcement officials and demonstrators for escalating the violence, rather than tempering it. Law enforcement also was accused of blocking and, in some cases, attacking journalists who were trying to report on the situation.


19 'Rules of Engagement'

Some of the coalition's "rules" ask that police provide information that makes clear law enforcement's chain of command, who is making what decisions and why, and assurances that neither police nor the government will interfere with the flow of information. That means, according to the "rules," there will be no unwarranted wiretapping or attempts to interfere with internet and cellular access. The rules ask the police not to use rubber bullets, armored vehicles, rifles and tear gas.

The organization also has written stipulations about how it wants police to present themselves, including a request that officers wear attire "minimally required for their safety" and that "specialized riot gear will be avoided except as a last resort."

Knowles would not give details on law enforcement's plan following the grand jury's decision, CNN affiliate Fox 2 reported Wednesday. But he spoke in broad terms about the approach law enforcement is going to take.

"It's not going to be about lining up a fixed line of law enforcement officers somewhere, it's going to be about being prepared, being reactive, being mobile, being able to respond to wherever an issue breaks out," the mayor said.

Knowles also expects there's going to be unrest outside of Ferguson.


"It's not going to be about Ferguson," he said. "The threats that are out there are threats across the region. Our expectation is that demonstrations will probably break out in several places."

The mayor told Fox 2 that people who are close to organizers and protesters have informed him that demonstrators are planning to focus on areas around St. Louis and the city's downtown.

Area school superintendents have written a letter urging that when the grand jury comes to a decision that it be announced on a weekend or at least not on a weekday until after 5 p.m. The superintendents are concerned that if chaos happens, that could affect the ability of nearly 20,000 students who use transportation to get to and from school.

If violence breaks out in Ferguson, people who live there won't be behind it, Knowles told Fox 2.

"I think you have to prepare for the worst, but I think we all hope the best out of people," Knowles said. "I don't believe that there is even a small fraction of residents in the city of Ferguson who want to do any damage or harm to any other residents or to any businesses... the concern would be who comes (from) outside the area."

Opinion: Ferguson: The signal it sends about America

Are the 'rules' legal?

Don't Shoot Coalition co-chair Michael McPherson said the purpose of the group's proposed rules is to "de-escalate violence" without tamping down on peaceful protest action.

"What we're trying to do is make sure that we move everything into a constructive way to create change," he said.

CNN legal analyst Paul Callan and radio personality Mo Ivory, appearing on CNN on Thursday, praised the idea of community members working with law enforcement to avoid a repeat of the chaos that raged in August and September.

"It's been done in mass demonstrations in the past -- marches on Washington, D.C., for civil rights, protesting the Vietnam war," he said.

Opinion: What does justice mean for Ferguson?

Callan was skeptical that the police would -- or should -- agree to some of the rules, including those that govern what police can wear and when they can make arrests.

One rule states: "Police will be more tolerant of more minor lawbreaking such as thrown water bottles when deciding whether to escalate the use of force."

"When you're out on the street and there's a huge street demonstration which could go violent immediately, you have to be prepared for that," Callan said. "What are they going to do? Go change? If you're a cop you have to protect yourself from things being thrown at you."

In the days after Brown's shooting, Ivory noted that the police looked like "they were going to war."

"And that's what made the protesters feel that heightened (fear)... because of the way the police were speaking to them," she said.

As far as being notified 48 hours ahead of a grand jury verdict, Callan said that was legal and could be done, though it would be an unusual step.

"I can't find any cases where the judiciary, which runs the grand jury, gave advance notice to street demonstrators about when an indictment was going to come down," Callan said. "On the other hand, it's not illegal, so theoretically, it could be done."

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Two more school districts issued warning letters.
KMOV reported:


Two more school districts issued letters this week about preparations and safety procedures ahead of the decision. Pattonville School District sent out a letter to parents Thursday saying “In light of the impending grand jury decision, Pattonville will continue to be a source of stability and support for our students. School will continue as normal.”

University City School District posted updated resources for parents regarding their contingency plans on its website.

More… Local special ops guys say this is just staging and that official announcement will be Sunday or Monday.
But, also heard tonight is the night
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Time to put these out of control thugs in their place. Don't just stand there and let them toss bricks and firebombs at you while you do nothing. Treat violence with the same degree of violence.

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I expressed the belief civil unrest would occur to former reporter Pat Murphy while we were eating at the White Horse. He was surprised.

Then while watching Virge Bernero on the MSNBC Ed Schultz show, Bernero shocked Schultz when he announced there would be civil unrest. The Republicans at the White Horse immediately wanted Bernero charged with inciting violence and wanted Schultz off the air. Yet they don't see anything wrong with the vicious and racist garbage coming out of FOX news!

Since when is making an observation and prediction become inciting violence?
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I expressed the belief civil unrest would occur to former reporter Pat Murphy while we were eating at the White Horse. He was surprised.

Reporter?? Surprised?? where's he been living under a rock somewhere. Of course the thugs are going to riot loot and burn some more innocent folks businesses, that's what they do all in the name of some social justice or other nonsense crap like that. In reality its just more chances to get something for nothing.

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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/11/10/1343823/-Wealth-inequality-is-about-to-surpass-Great-Depression-levels?

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Mon Nov 10, 2014 at 01:22 PM PST.

Wealth inequality is about to surpass Great Depression levels

by
Walter Einenkel

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A new paper by Mr Saez and Gabriel Zucman of the London School of Economics says the wealth inequality gap is reaching historic distances.

The 16,000 families making up the richest 0.01%, with an average net worth of $371m, now control 11.2% of total wealth—back to the 1916 share, which is the highest on record. Those down the distribution have not done quite so well: the top 0.1% (consisting of 160,000 families worth $73m on average) hold 22% of America’s wealth, just shy of the 1929 peak—and exactly the same share as the bottom 90% of the population. Meanwhile the share of wealth held by families from the 90th to the 99th percentile has actually fallen over the last decade, though not by as much as the net worth of the bottom 90%.

The outsize fortunes of the few would not be too worrying were they largely the product of entrepreneurial activity: riches amassed by hardworking billionaires who are as likely as not to give their bounty away through philanthropy. Messrs Saez and Zucman find some evidence for this dynamic. Wealthy families are younger than they were a generation or two ago, and they earn a larger share of the country’s income from labour: 3.1% in 2012 versus less than 0.5% prior to 1970.
Simply put, the top 0.1%'s wealth is about to overtake the bottom 90% for the first time since 1929. The best part is that the top 0.1% wants to control the "redistribution" of our nation's wealth. So far it seems like they've divided it up as thoughtfully as Hyman Roth dividing up Cuba in the Godfather II. .

Walt Einenkel on Mon Nov 10, 2014 at 01:22:
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http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2014/11/12/3591240/ferguson-grand-jury-ruling-prep/Ready

1,000 Police Officers Mobilized In Advance Of Grand Jury Ruling In Ferguson


by Carimah Townes Posted on November 12, 2014 at 9:02 am


Missouri Governor Jay Nixon said that he will call the Missouri National Guard, should violence erupt after the grand jury decision in the case of Darren Wilson. During a press conference on Tuesday, Nixon also said that more than 1000 law enforcement officials have completed 5,000 hours of specialized training over the past two months, in preparation for the verdict, which will be announced any day now.





In addition to the use of the National Guard, three police agencies including St. Louis County Police, city police, and highway patrol will follow the same command, if Darren Wilson is not indicted and protesters take to the streets. Many departments have invested in new riot gear.

Nixon also said that law enforcement officials have been in talks with “churches, schools, [and] businesses” to “listen to people’s concerns and develop strategies to specifically address them.”

“These measures are not being taken because we believe violence will occur but because we have a responsibility to plan for any contingency,” Nixon said during a press conference on Tuesday. “Violence will not be tolerated. Residents and businesses of this region will be protected.”

He also explained that he wants to maintain public safety while allowing people to speak peacefully.

But members of the community are interpreting a different message. According to Michael Brown’s cousin, Ty Pruitt, “The police are getting ready for war when they should be getting ready for a trial. That to me means they’ve already made their decision. We still feel terrible. Right now we feel about the same way we felt when [Brown] was lying dead in the middle of the street for four and a half hours.”

Activist Ashley Yates of Millennial Activists United also expressed concerns with Nixon and his plan. “Until the governor chooses to truly address the systemic issues that the murder of Michael Brown brought to the surface for many Americans, no press release or commission board will truly help this community move forward from this tragedy.”

Meanwhile, Brown’s parents, Michael Brown Sr. and Lesley McSpadden, spoke before the U.N. Committee Against Torture on Tuesday, calling for global intervention in America’s policing tactics. The couple asked a panel to recommend that “racial profiling and racially-biased police harassment across the jurisdictions surrounding Ferguson” stops, and for the Department of Justice to “conduct a nationwide investigation of systematic police brutality and harassment in black and brown communities, and youth in particular,” adding that the “methodology and findings of this investigation must be made publicly available.”

“Whatever the grand jury decides in Missouri will not bring Michael back,” Brown said. “We also understand that what you decide here may save lives.”
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Both sides are developing strategy. Churches and businesses are prepared to help protesters that are tear gassed or beaten by the police.

meanwhile the police have reverted back to their military stance.
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REALLY!! so you visited there and know from firsthand knowledge? Or your reading and believing what the lib media wants you to hear?. The honest law abiding "working" taxpaying people of Ferguson have every right to expect law enforcement to protect them and their livelihoods. I guess if you lived in the area you wouldn't fit in with that description. Hmmm wonder what your response would be if a bunch of thugs started burning. looting, beating and carjacking in your little Neighborhood. The cops couldn't get there soon enough.

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Odd. Because my neighborhood has had carjackings, murders, B & E's and more. We have fewer police and minorities are moving. I drove down Winona between Mackin and Welch last weekend and saw 4 moving vans. Thank goodness for the trash pickers who were emptying the majority of the stuff left behind so it dd not look overwhelming.

The Chamber wrote in 2002 that they wanted people with more income to move into he downtown. That is why the efforts have been to develop a walkable downtown and the construction of the lofts. They want to encourage students to stay after graduation and affluent empty nesters.

Most Flint residents complain but are not driven to action.
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