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Note: Davis was black.
The reporters who were arrested and others have complained the Ferguson Police officers are not wearing name tags and refuse to identify themselves. |
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CNN has reported the Department of Justice asked the Ferguson Police not to release the robbery video because they feared a backlash. The Police waited one day and released the video. The DOJ was right.
The difference is that when looting by small groups broke out, young people and other residents stepped in and blocked the looters. The people and not the police intervened to protect. Police did throw a canister of tear gas.
Polls indicate 45 % do not trust the police investigation. The police have access to all of the evidence. Can the officer tailor his story to fit the evidence in the manner the Chief altered his press conferences?
Will we see the police and their defenders focus o the "mind set" of Mike Brown? Will they say that because of the robbery, Brown was possibly more aggressive.
Brown, Trayvon Martin, and Ezell Ford in California were all allegedly reaching for a gun when they were killed.. |
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Daily Kos / By ExpatGirl
Dumbest Police Chief in America
I am scratching my head over how it is possible to be as clueless as the St. Louis County and Ferguson police departments.
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I am scratching my head over how it is humanly possible to be as clueless as the St. Louis County and Ferguson police departments. To make one mistake is understandable but to have EVERYTHING you do be a complete vulgar language up is astounding.
1. Officer kills an unarmed black teen in the street.
2. Officer who kills the teenager requests assistance but does not inform his commanders of what happened. Instead, they learn it on the news like everyone else.
3. The scene is left in the hands of the officer’s own colleagues who allow the officer to leave the scene of the crime. His vehicle is also allowed to leave the scene – presumably breaking the integrity of the chain of evidence.
4. Victim is left lying in the road for four hours – inflaming the community and presumably destroying evidence.
5. Witnesses say that the killing officer never bothered to check for a pulse once his victim went down. None of the other officers arriving on the scene checked for a pulse. Bystanders in the medical field were not allowed to attempt CPR.
6. Rumor has it that the cellphones of possible witnesses were confiscated.
7. Police launch campaign to protect the officer at all costs - including the destruction of the community of Ferguson.
8. Police launch a full military invasion of the traumatized town of Ferguson.
9. Police caught on international TV screaming “Bring it! Bring it you very animals!”
10. The response to a community protesting police brutality is the imposition of ‘martial law’ complete with authoritarianism, tear gas, rubber bullets, flash grenades and sound grenades.
11. Police throw the Constitution out the window and arrest, assault and teargas journalists.
12. Police arrest a well-known public figure for the "crime" of "failing to listen".
13. Chief of Police praises his officers for showing incredible restraint.
14. After days of shocking behavior that caught the attention of the world, police finally release Killer Cop's name - while concurrently launching a smear campaign against his victim. This decision to reignite the fuse of the powder keg is not run up the chain of command - despite pledges from the Governor that there is a new Sheriff in town.
15. Chief of Police specifically says that he is not interested in talking to the community he has been victimizing.
16. Chief of Police holds multiple press conferences in which he contradicts himself repeatedly.
17. Chief of Police makes a statement PRAISING the Killer Cop while concurrently smearing the dead teenaged victim at the center of the nation’s outrage: "He was a gentle, quiet man," Police Chief Thomas Jackson said Friday, referring to Wilson. "He was a distinguished officer. He was a gentleman. ... He is, he has been, an excellent officer."
Police Chief Thomas Jackson, you have got to be the STUPIDEST MORON on the face of the planet. To call you “stupid” is in fact an insult to stupid people. I hold you 100% responsible for every bit of this national tragedy.
YOU allowed a culture that has consistently dehumanized and discriminated against African Americans and, by so doing, YOU laid the groundwork for the murder of Michael Brown.
YOUR officers referred to a traumatized community as “very animals” on international TV.
YOU shielded a man who killed a fleeing teenager, at the expense of an entire community.
YOU have consistently demonstrated that you will go to almost any length to protect one of your own.
YOU have praised a killer and smeared a teenager whose biggest crime in life was possibly stealing a pack of cigarettes.
YOU threw the law out the window and declared war on the very people you are paid to serve and protect.
YOU have demonstrated that you are prepared to lie in order to protect a killer.
YOU are an asshole who should not be in any position of authority. You don’t have the sense or integrity to do the job required.
So many ways for you to have handled this tragedy and you, without fail, have consistently chosen the worst option.
This entire fiasco is like watching a modern day version of In the Heat of the Night. It is tragic and disgusting and infuriating. |
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Police in Ferguson Arrest Several Protesters
By JULIE BOSMAN and ALAN BLINDERAUG. 17, 2014
FERGUSON, Mo. — Hours after Gov. Jay Nixon of Missouri imposed a midnight-to-5 a.m. curfew on Saturday in this small city, a group of protesters defied the order and violence flared briefly on Sunday morning, after a week of demonstrations over the killing of an unarmed black teenager by a white police officer.
A clash between the protesters and dozens of police officers in riot gear began less than 30 minutes after the curfew took effect and ended about 45 minutes later with the arrest of seven people, all charged with “failure to disperse.”
The protesters had moved toward the officers — some of whom rode in armored vehicles — and chanted : “We are Mike Brown! We have the right to assemble peacefully!” invoking the name of the 18-year-old who was shot and killed by a Ferguson police officer.
“You are violating the state-imposed curfew,” an officer told the demonstrators as rain, heavy at times, passed through the area.
Protesters tossed at least one bottle rocket, the police said, and at the sound of apparent gunshots from a restaurant at the end of the street, demonstrators scrambled to safety.
A Protest Ignited
Despite an earlier pledge by Capt. Ronald S. Johnson, the state Highway Patrol commander whose is overseeing security in Ferguson, the police eventually began firing both smoke grenades and some tear gas.
At a news conference about 3 a.m. on Sunday, Captain Johnson explained that some tear gas had been used because the police had learned that armed men were inside a barbecue restaurant. One man with a gun had moved to the middle of the street, Captain Johnson said, but escaped. Another man, who was not identified, was shot by an unknown assailant and taken by companions to a hospital where he was reported to be in critical condition. A police car was fired upon, Captain Johnson said, but it was not immediately clear if it was hit.
As the news briefing ended, Captain Johnson was asked whether the curfew would continue, but he did not answer.
The initial curfew announcement came in midafternoon on Saturday, when Governor Nixon declared a state of emergency here.
“This is not to silence the people of Ferguson, but to address those who are drowning out the voice of the people with their actions,” Mr. Nixon, a Democrat, told reporters and residents at a Ferguson church. “We will not allow a handful of looters to endanger the rest of this community. If we’re going to achieve justice, we must first have and maintain peace.”
Mr. Nixon added: “This is a test. The eyes of the world are watching.”
The announcement prompted cries of protest and anguish from some members of the public who attended the news conference, with many of them arguing that a curfew would lead only to new confrontations. Some people begged to be able to go into the streets themselves to try to calm any violence, but Captain Johnson said the curfew would be put in place and enforced.
“We won’t enforce it with trucks, we won’t enforce it with tear gas, we will enforce it with communication,” Captain Johnson said. “We will be telling people, ‘It’s time to go home.’ ”
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Mr. Nixon’s announcement, at the Greater St. Mark Family Church, near the site of the unrest, came a week after the death of Mr. Brown, who was shot by Officer Darren Wilson, a six-year police veteran. The police said that Mr. Brown had been stopped for walking down the middle of the street and that a scuffle had ensued, ending in gunfire; other eyewitnesses have disputed that account.
At times, Mr. Nixon and Captain Johnson both appeared chagrined by the spectacle, the governor curtly telling one prospective questioner, “I’ll let you yell at me next.”
Mr. Nixon described the looting and violence as the work of an isolated few, but emphasized that a curfew was necessary to restore order in a community where residents have complained that basic services, like summoning an ambulance through a 911 call, have been disrupted.
The curfew came under quick attack from some people in the church and from protesters whom Captain Johnson credited with assisting the police in maintaining order.
“Right now, I want to make sure that my people don’t get hurt tonight,” said Malik Z. Shabazz of Black Lawyers for Justice. He said his group would bring a lawsuit challenging the treatment of Ferguson residents by the police in the initial days of turmoil.
He added: “It’s Saturday night. Midnight is an early time, and I have to be able to go to my people with credibility in order for them to come out of those streets. Twelve midnight is early. I cleared it Thursday at 1:30, no problem. But if I can get till 1:30, 2 tonight, it would all go peacefully, no problem. Twelve midnight is a problem.”
Some residents shouted at the governor, including one man who said, “We will not get sleep until we get justice for Michael Brown.
Steven W. Hawkins, the executive director of Amnesty International USA, said in a statement: “It’s hard to build trust if the governor doesn’t meet with community members and restricts their movements with a curfew.”
But the announcement was greeted with relief from some elected officials, who have struggled to hold off the faction of protesters who have engaged in looting.
“I don’t know what the answer is, but there has to be some type of response because it’s only getting worse out there,” Patricia Bynes, a black Democratic committeewoman for Ferguson Township, said. “People are fed up with police brutality and police harassment. There is still so much racism and discrimination in this region, ingrained in the business world and the communities. This is what happens when institutional racism continues.”
Mr. Brown’s shooting is being investigated by the Justice Department. Agents of the Federal Bureau of Investigation have been flooding into Ferguson, seeking witnesses. Locally, the case is being handled by the St. Louis County prosecutor, Robert McCulloch, but there have been calls to have the case shifted to a special prosecutor, in part because of criticism that Mr. McCulloch has not been rigorous in prosecuting law enforcement officers in high-profile cases.
Since last Sunday, Ferguson has seesawed between extremes: order and unrest, protests and looting.
It has seen peaceful demonstrations by day and often ugly clashes at night between highly militarized police officers and angry protesters calling for justice for Mr. Brown. On Thursday, President Obama urged an end to the violence and the governor ordered the state Highway Patrol to take over security.
Residents have taken to the streets each day, holding placards condemning what they say is a long history of harassment and abuse of African-Americans at the hands of the largely white Ferguson police force. Groups of people have silently confronted police officers, facing them with their hands in the air, as witnesses said Mr. Brown did before he was shot.
And late at night, a small number of unruly people in the crowd have turned violent, smashing shop windows and stealing hair supplies and liquor. For several days, television networks have replayed clips of people looting, burning down a convenience store and throwing glass bottles and gasoline bombs at heavily armed police officers, drawing comparisons to scenes from a war-ravaged city.
Earlier, Chief Jon Belmar of the St. Louis County Police Department had dismissed the idea of a curfew, saying that such an action would not hinder people determined to cause violence, while negatively affecting residents engaging in innocent activity, like walking home from the bus stop after a late shift of work.
But Mr. Nixon, increasingly desperate to bring the situation in Ferguson under control, said he embraced the tactic reluctantly.
Earlier Saturday, in a new sign of discord among the authorities over the handling of the investigation into Mr. Brown’s death, the Justice Department said that it had opposed the release of a video that the Ferguson Police Department said showed the teenager apparently involved in a robbery at a convenience store.
The Justice Department asked the Ferguson Police Department not to release the video because of concerns that “it would roil the community further,” a United States law enforcement official said on Saturday. The Ferguson department released the video on Friday and the Justice official said it “occurred over the objection of federal authorities.” The official said a copy of the video had been in possession of federal investigators, as well, “and there were never any plans by the federal investigators to release that copy.”
The dispute showed further divisions among the authorities in the handling of the case. The surveillance video appeared to show Mr. Brown stealing a box of cigarillos. Shortly after the release of the video, Captain Johnson expressed his displeasure, saying he had not been told that the police planned to release it.
Mr. Brown’s family and many protesters accused the police of trying to harm the teenager’s reputation and to divert attention from the officer who killed him. The police have said that Officer Wilson was not aware of what had happened at the convenience store when he encountered Mr. Brown. The police identified the officer for the first time on Friday; he has been put on administrative leave and his whereabouts were unknown. Neighbors on his block in Crestwood, a suburb of St. Louis, said that he left his home several days ago and has not been seen since. On Saturday, the house appeared deserted, the blinds in the windows closed tightly.
On Friday night, hundreds of protesters returned to the streets in anger over the shooting and the handling of the investigation. The confrontation between the police and demonstrators, the first serious one since the Highway Patrol assumed responsibility for security operations, ended at about 4 a.m. when the authorities, prompted by the gradual dispersal of demonstrators, pulled back to their nearby command post. The Associated Press reported that one law enforcement official had been injured overnight.
Ferguson continued to draw African-American leaders, who appeared at protests and held prayer vigils. On Saturday, dozens of clergy members, including the Rev. Jesse L. Jackson and hundreds of people, including residents from Ferguson, greater St. Louis and beyond, gathered on Canfield Drive, the street where Mr. Brown was killed, in front of two makeshift memorials decorated with candles, stuffed animals and flowers.
“We choose futures over funerals,” Mr. Jackson said.
Emma G. Fitzsimmons contributed reporting from New York, Charlie Savage from Washington and John Eligon from Ferguson. |
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THINK PROGRESS
Missouri Governor: Police Released Video Of Robbery To Attack Michael Brown’s Character
by Jack Jenkins Posted on August 17, 2014 at 11:29 am
As controversy continues to rage over the death of 18-year-old Michael Brown at the hands of a police officer, Missouri Governor Jay Nixon said on Sunday that he disagreed “deeply” with the release of a video allegedly depicting Brown robbing a convenience store, and was not informed of the tape before it was unveiled by Ferguson police.
Ferguson, Missouri police chief Thomas Jackson came under fire this week after he approved the release of a video allegedly showing Brown stealing cigars from a shop. Ferguson residents and people across the country have decried the timing of the tape’s release, especially since the events of the video — which the U.S. Justice Department reportedly advised the Ferguson police department not to release — are in no way connected to the incident that resulted in Brown’s death.
Responding to questions from host Andrea Mitchell on NBC’s Meet the Press, Nixon said on Sunday that neither he nor the Missouri highway patrol — which has taken over law enforcement operations in Ferguson — were aware that the video was going to be distributed to press. He said he opposed Jackson’s decision to unveil it while Brown’s death is still under investigation:
MITCHELL: But then the local police chief released that video. What justifies releasing that video about the convenience store while there are still no details about what happened with the shooting itself? That is what caused everything to erupt again on Friday night and eventually led to the curfew being imposed?
NIXON: We and our security team and the highway patrol didn’t know that was going to be released, and I don’t think the Attorney General knew that. Quite frankly we disagree deeply I think for 2 reasons. Number one to attempt in essence to disparage the character in the middle of a process like this is not right. It’s just not right. And secondarily it did put the community and, quite frankly, the region and the nation on alert again. These are old wounds, these are deep wounds in these communities and that action was not helpful.
Mitchell later pressed Nixon on whether or not Jackson should be fired his actions. Nixon wouldn’t say, but noted that he understood how the timing of the release was insensitive — especially to Brown’s family:
MITCHELL: Well then should police chief Jackson be fired or have to step down?
NIXON: Rest assured we’ve had very serious discussions about that action and how much we thought that was not the right way to handle the victim’s family, which I had a chance to speak with. They were deeply troubled. When you see your son gunned down in the street and then you see a police chief begin an attempt to attack his character, that’s just not the way to operate and we’ve made that clear to everyone.
Nixon has attempted to restore peace in Ferguson over the past week, working with highway patrol officer Capt. Ron Johnson to stifle unrest after several days of violent clashes between cops and local protestors following Brown’s death. But after a short period of calm, violence and looting erupted anew this weekend — a shift some say is largely in response to the release of the video. Nixon, who has been criticized for taking too long to address the crisis in the first place, declared a state of emergency in Ferguson on Saturday and imposed a midnight to 5 a.m. curfew to handle the new wave of turmoil. Some are concerned that the curfew may backfire, but Nixon defended the decision, saying, “If we’re going to achieve justice, we first must have and maintain peace.” |
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Another eyewitness and more cellphone video from the scene of the Michael Brown shooting
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Yet another eyewitness has come forward in the Michael Brown shooting. Piaget Crenshaw appeared on CNN to discuss the events she saw unfold live from her apartment. She also said the police confiscated her phone and she's upset the video hasn't been released.
Watch Piaget Crenshaw describe the events, with her cellphone footage of the scene immediately after the shooting, in the video below the fold.
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Ferguson: a few questions for the police
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Ferguson Police Chief Thomas Jackson announces the name of the officer involved in the shooting of Michael Brown as officer Darren Wilson, in Ferguson, Missouri August 15, 2014. The briefing was held near a QuikTrip convenience store that had been burned
Last week, the Ferguson Police Department released a "packet" of information supposedly related to the shooting of Michael Brown. The problem was, even a cursory examination of the material shows that it actually has nothing on the shooting. All the information in the packet is instead related to a robbery that occurred a few minutes before the encounter between officer Darren Wilson and Michael Brown. When asked why he was releasing the information, Ferguson Police Chief Tom Jackson maintained that it was because "you keep asking," as if the packet provided answers to the many requests for information that had been filed with his department. It didn't.
If the Ferguson police want to provide some information that would actually be helpful in understanding the situation, then how about answering a couple of these questions?
1) Where is Darren Wilson?
I don't mean by this that the police should be releasing his address and handing out maps to the hotel where he's hiding. I mean: Do the police know where he is? Has Wilson been told to stay in the state, or in the immediate vicinity so that he is available, at a minimum, for questioning? The police don't need to tell us that Wilson is at a safe house, or that Wilson is visiting his mom. They just need to say that he is in contact, under observation, and not on his way to Argentina.
2) Where is the evidence on Wilson's supposed injury?
There are a lot of bits of forensic evidence unlikely to appear in public until it's time for all this to head to court (assuming it does). However, since the Ferguson PD has repeatedly mentioned that Wilson had to be treated for injuries: Where are the photographs of those injuries? Where is a report from the medical personnel involved? The Ferguson police have already passed over great heaps of inflammatory material unrelated to the shooting death of Michael Brown, but they won't make available the one bit of evidence that there actually was a physical altercation between Brown and Wilson prior to the shooting? Video evidence seems to show Wilson lingering around the scene with no sign of injury. Where is the evidence?
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3) Was a crime scene investigation carried out?
For over four hours, Michael Brown's body was left in a puddle of blood on a public street. Presumably, the only reason for doing such a thing was so that a thorough crime scene investigation could be conducted. However, we've seen no results of that investigation. How about a diagram showing the relationship of the patrol car to Brown? Or, assuming Wilson was not using a revolver, the location of shell casings relative to both the car and Brown's body? While we're at it, if there were shots that didn't strike Michael Brown, where did they end up? Again, the details are likely to be unavailable until trial, but if the Ferguson police are going to produce a narrative that excuses Wilson's actions, and the Ferguson police are also the sole holder of any evidence related to that action, it seems only sensible that they release this information—especially when failure to release it represents an ongoing threat to the community. Was Darren Wilson questioned at the scene? Why was the patrol car moved, even though it was tied to events at the scene, while Brown's body was left to wait? Why have we seen nothing of an actual report on the shooting?
4) Why was Michael Brown denied medical attention?
The testimony of several eyewitnesses indicates that nothing was done to check on Brown's condition after the shooting. Not even so much as someone kneeling to check his pulse. At least one witness has said that a trained nurse was denied access to Brown while he lay roasting in his blood on the asphalt. Why? Why was no ambulance called? Wouldn't this have been routine? Who declared Michael Brown dead at the scene?
5) Were phones confiscated at the scene, and why?
Several witnesses have stated that they were either stopped from recording the scene, or that phones were taken. If one of those phones has evidence directly related to the shooting, then there's a good reason it should be held, but where is the chain of custody for these devices? Where is the documentation showing that they were properly collected and turned over to an investigative team, rather than immediately falling into possession of the man who shot Brown or other officers with an interest in removing evidence?
6) How many times had Darren Wilson used force in the past?
Several reports have shown that the Ferguson PD has a particularly lax procedure surrounding the use of force by officers, and that officers have in the past been allowed to produce their own incident reports. Has Wilson previously filed reports concerning use of force? We've been told that Wilson had a clean record. How clean?
Many of the biggest concerns about this incident could be resolved with the most basic information. How far from Officer Darren Wilson was Michael Brown when he was shot? If a weapon was discharged in the vehicle, where did that bullet go (and by the way, since the autopsy found no evidence of powder residue on Michael Brown's body, the one thing we can be pretty sure of is that Brown did not fire that shot, if it even occurred).
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by Mark Sumner on Mon Aug 18, 2014 at 11:18:28 AM PDT
* [new] Where is the tox report on the cop (120+ / 0-)
Was Darren Wilson examined by medical authorities and was his blood drawn? If not, why not.
What is the procedure for assessment when a cop kills?
Was it followed?
Why was he allowed to drive the vehicle away? That car is evidence.
Why was he not taken into custody?
Where is the report on the killing?
the dog you have, is the dog you need. - Cesar Millan
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The Raw Story
August 18, 2014
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In the next few weeks, separate teams of doctors will issue autopsy reports about Michael Brown, the unarmed African American shot to death by a police officer in Ferguson, Missouri. If history is any guide, they will differ, perhaps significantly, on how to interpret the gunshot wounds on his body. Michael Baden, the veteran medical examiner chosen to autopsy the body by Brown's family, has released the preliminary results of his autopsy and both the St. Louis County Medical Examiner and U.S. Justice Department have announced plans to conduct or commission separate post mortems.
As a journalist, I've read roughly 1,000 autopsy reports and spent much of my career reporting on fatal encounters between police officers and civilians. Here's some of what Baden found and what experts will be looking for as they examine Brown's corpse:
1.Evidence that Brown was fleeing from the officer who shot him, Darren Wilson. Shots to the back are a red flag, indicating the victim may have been running from the officer rather than attacking. The basic law on use of force turns on whether a police officer acted from a "reasonable belief" that he or she was facing a lethal threat. Baden — who was hired by Brown's family — believes Brown was shot at least six times with all the bullets striking him from the front.
2.Signs of a physical altercation. Forensic pathologists study the exterior of the body for bruises, scrapes and lacerations which can be signs that a scuffle preceded the fatal shots. Witnesses have said Brown and Wilson wrestled in the moments before the killing. On Baden's diagram of Brown's body, the doctor does not appear to have noted any significant injuries other than the gun shot wounds. Baden did not find gunpowder residue on Brown's hands, one piece of evidence that would likely be present if the two men were struggling for control of a gun discharged at close range.
3.Bullet trajectory. Shots fired at a downward angle may indicate the officer fired while the victim was on his knees or laying on the ground. A person in those positions generally poses less of a physical threat. Baden said a shot to Brown's head appeared to have come from above; he believes this was the fatal shot.
4.Number of shots. Baden voiced concern over the fact that Brown was hit by at least six shots. The doctor, who served earlier in his career as chief medical examiner for New York City and as an expert for the New York State Police, was quoted by the New York Times as saying, "In my capacity as the forensic examiner for the New York State Police, I would say, 'You're not supposed to shoot so many times.'" The number of shots may or may not be significant. Training on lethal force varies from department to department. Many forces train officers to continue firing until the suspect has been completely subdued. Some experts say that incidents in which a civilian has been hit with a single shot are more suspicious than those with multiple shots: The lone bullet could have been fired accidentally or in a moment of rage.
5.Gunshot residue. The presence of gunshot residue (GSR) on the skin or clothes of the victim may mean that the person was shot at very close range. Baden found no GSR on Brown's body, but said he did not scrutinize his clothing. Additionally, bullets fired from a few inches away leave distinct wound patterns on the flesh. Baden's report suggests the shots were fired from further away.
6.The presence of alcohol or drugs. Baden has not reviewed the toxicology tests, but results of those tests should be available soon (though it could take the authorities months to release them). Forensic pathologists typically fill vials with bodily fluids — urine, blood, or vitreous humor, the fluid within the eyeballs — and send them off to outside laboratories to be screened for alcohol, prescription drugs, and street drugs. If drugs or alcohol are discovered Brown's system, that information might provide some additional context to the fatal events.
In some police-civilian clashes, the evidence discovered during an autopsy turns out to be crucial. In the case of Michael Brown, it’s not clear how useful this trio of autopsies will be. As the nation tries to understand what happened on August 9, the autopsy results may well not prove conclusive on the key questions. |
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Actually during the press conference the experts from the family autopsy stated that because of the mobility of the arm, it could not be determined if any of the wounds (or the bullet graze marks on the arm) could have come fro behind.
The clothing, toxicology reports and other evidence was not available to the second autopsy team.
Thus when the DOJ has all of the evidence, including x rays, this will be n important autopsy. |
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There are claims that a hidden second conversation within a recorded conversation backs the officer's story. Since the police have violated Missouri Law and never released the statement, no one knows the officer's statement. An alleged family friend, calling herself Josie, went to the radio and allegedly told the officer's side.
I was told photos of the officer's car have surfaced nd even the steering wheel was damaged. What this means as the car was not impounded and the officer drove it away is iffy. No proper chain of evidence, unless they phony one up. |
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I’m a cop. If you don’t want to get hurt, don’t challenge me.
It’s not the police, but the people they stop, who can prevent a detention from turning into a tragedy.
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Sunil Dutta
By Sunil Dutta August 19
Sunil Dutta, a professor of homeland security at Colorado Tech University, has been an officer with the Los Angeles Police Department for 17 years. The views presented here are his own and do not represent the LAPD.
Police in Ferguson, Mo., over the weekend. (Scott Olson/Getty Images)
A teenager is fatally shot by a police officer; the police are accused of being bloodthirsty, trigger-happy murderers; riots erupt. This, we are led to believe, is the way of things in America.
It is also a terrible calumny; cops are not murderers. No officer goes out in the field wishing to shoot anyone, armed or unarmed. And while they’re unlikely to defend it quite as loudly during a time of national angst like this one, people who work in law enforcement know they are legally vested with the authority to detain suspects — an authority that must sometimes be enforced. Regardless of what happened with Mike Brown, in the overwhelming majority of cases it is not the cops, but the people they stop, who can prevent detentions from turning into tragedies.
Working the street, I can’t even count how many times I withstood curses, screaming tantrums, aggressive and menacing encroachments on my safety zone, and outright challenges to my authority. In the vast majority of such encounters, I was able to peacefully resolve the situation without using force. Cops deploy their training and their intuition creatively, and I wielded every trick in my arsenal, including verbal judo, humor, warnings and ostentatious displays of the lethal (and nonlethal) hardware resting in my duty belt. One time, for instance, my partner and I faced a belligerent man who had doused his car with gallons of gas and was about to create a firebomb at a busy mall filled with holiday shoppers. The potential for serious harm to the bystanders would have justified deadly force. Instead, I distracted him with a hook about his family and loved ones, and he disengaged without hurting anyone. Every day cops show similar restraint and resolve incidents that could easily end up in serious injuries or worse.
Sometimes, though, no amount of persuasion or warnings work on a belligerent person; that’s when cops have to use force, and the results can be tragic. We are still learning what transpired between Officer Darren Wilson and Brown, but in most cases it’s less ambiguous — and officers are rarely at fault. When they use force, they are defending their, or the public’s, safety.
Even though it might sound harsh and impolitic, here is the bottom line: if you don’t want to get shot, tased, pepper-sprayed, struck with a baton or thrown to the ground, just do what I tell you. Don’t argue with me, don’t call me names, don’t tell me that I can’t stop you, don’t say I’m a racist pig, don’t threaten that you’ll sue me and take away my badge. Don’t scream at me that you pay my salary, and don’t even think of aggressively walking towards me. Most field stops are complete in minutes. How difficult is it to cooperate for that long? |
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What They Saw: 5 Eyewitnesses to the Michael Brown Shooting
These individuals gave their versions of the Ferguson, Mo., teenager’s last moments.
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New Witness Gives Her Account of Michael Brown Shooting ...
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A new eyewitness to the fatal police shooting of unarmed Ferguson teen Michael Brown has come forward claiming that she saw Brown and the officer scuffling and ...
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5 Eyewitness Accounts of Michael Brown’s Shooting - The Root
What They Saw: 5 Eyewitnesses to the Michael Brown Shooting
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Aug 19, 2014 · These individuals gave their versions of the Ferguson, Mo., ... All five witnesses had distinct ... The Root encourages respectful debate … |
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Wed Aug 20, 2014 1:59 pm |
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Barbara MorrillFollowRSS
Daily Kos staff
Fri Aug 22, 2014 at 05:09 AM PDT.
Keystone Cops or liars? Ferguson police now say there is no incident report on the shooting
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The role models for today's Ferguson Police Department
It's been nearly two weeks since a white police officer gunned down an unarmed black teenager in Ferguson, Missouri, and for nearly two weeks we have asked why the Ferguson Police Department refused to release the incident report on the shooting. And now we have their reason lame-ass excuse:
The reason, according to the office of St. Louis County Prosecuting Attorney Robert P. McCulloch, is that it doesn’t exist.
McCulloch—who has been accused of bias in favor of the police amidst calls for him to recuse himself from the case—claims that no report was ever filed because Ferguson police turned the case over to St. Louis County police shortly after Michael Brown was killed.
Seriously? A Ferguson police officer shot and killed a citizen of Ferguson in the streets of Ferguson, and it generated nothing from the Ferguson police? If paper shredders could talk ...
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Originally posted to Barbara Morrill on Fri Aug 22, 2014 at 05:09 AM PDT.
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