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Topic: The Greenview Manor money pit

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El Supremo

Greenview Manor is back on the council agenda after some units were condemned. The City of Flint got this pig from HUD in 2000 and was supposed to adhere to specific deed restrictions.

Barbara Chiapella , Director of the Michigan Multifamily Hub for the US Dept. of Housing and Urban Development, sent a letter to Mayor Williamson on December 19,2005 addressing Greenview Manor,

"On August 24,2000 the United States Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) held a foreclosure sale pertaining to the subject property and as the highest bidder, the property was deeded to the Secretary. Subsequently HUD renovated 47 of the 84 units at a cost of $456,699.07 and the property was offered to the City of Flint, On March 16, 2001 Greenview manor was formally sold to the City of Flint for $10 by a Special Warranty Deed that contained mutually agreed upon stipulations and requirements between HUD and the City. "..
"Unfortunately, the City has not fulfilled their obligations as they pertain to this document in spite of numerous phone calls and requests for compliance from the City by this office. The purpose of this letter is to notify you and City Council that the Detroit Office is referring this issue to the Chicago Departmental Enforcement Center (DEC) of HUD for resolution."..

The property was closed upon on March 16,2001 but was not recorded until 2002 (Registrar of deeds 200210018133) by Loyst Fletcher. This is in effect for 20 years.

The purchase price was $384,500 or $10 and adherence to the provision of tenant services as outlined. Woodrow Stanley chose the $10 option and the property was to be rehabilitated within 12 months of the closing.

Rider 12 of 12 detailed tenant services to be provided by Odyssey Housing Development. Included among these services were:
a. maintaim the office with at least one person for 20 hours per week and provide the use of a separate community room;
b. provide financial counseling services;
c. coordinate with Government Entitlement Agencies for benefits the residents might be eligible for;
d. coordinate daily free transportation services within a specified radius; coordinate low cost or free healthscreening services, case management, in home aide services for the elderly over 60, and life safety seminars;
e. coordinate a" meals on wheels" program;
f. provide on-site Please delete me! services;
g. delelop an adult literacy program;
h. coordinate police and crime watch services;
i.provide day care and child development services at no charge or on an ability to pay while tenants are looking for work, working, or attending job training or school;
j. implement welfare to work programs;
k. coordinate the provision of substance abuse services.
Post Sun Apr 18, 2010 4:12 pm 
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Interesting... Greenview Manor has property on State's Unclaimed Property website.

Post Sun Apr 18, 2010 9:02 pm 
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El Supremo

Jon Manning was the Odyssey House employee that ran STRIVE and was implicated in the Career Alliance scandal. He died last year. They ceased filing reports in 2001 and were automatically dissolved in 2004.


ID Num: 745975
Assumed Names


Type of Entity: Domestic Nonprofit Corporation
Resident Agent: JON M MANNING

Registered Office Address: 120 E FIRST ST, SUITE 1505 FLINT MI 48502
Mailing Address: MI

Formed Under Act Number(s): 162-1982

Incorporation/Qualification Date: 12-19-1996

Jurisdiction of Origin: MICHIGAN

Number of Shares: 0

Year of Most Recent Annual Report: 01

Year of Most Recent Annual Report With Officers & Directors: 01

Status: AUTOMATIC DISSOLUTION Date: 10-1-2004
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Assumed Names: Id Num Creation Date Renew Date Expiration Date
GREENVIEW APARTMENTS 745975 7-27-2001 7-15-2004
RUPP'S SERVICE 745975 1-6-1999 7-15-2004
Post Sun Apr 18, 2010 9:30 pm 
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El Supremo


The 6th year action plan for the City of Flint department of Community and Economic Development (City of Flint web site) shows $910,000 more to be spent meeting our HUD obligation to Greenview Manor .

When Kincaid questioned the cost and if the money was to be used elsewhere would we need a substantial amendment, Eason did not know that a change that significant would require another public hearing. The look on Kincaid's face-Priceless.

We probably have to spend the money though. See greenview manor money pit.

Wed Apr 21, 2010 11:44 am
Post Sun Aug 22, 2010 1:27 pm 
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El Supremo

Council committee on comcast today. More bad news regarding Greenview manor and possibly more lost money.

It always seems like the projects HUD requires us to take on are the ones that cost the city the most. The city was not qualified to run this project and now it appears Mission of Peace wasn't qualified either.
Post Sun Aug 22, 2010 1:30 pm 
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El Supremo

Just checked out the county and city web sites, greenview Manor is in forfeiture. taxes owed:

2008 $37,400.61
2009 $28,049.97







FLINT, MI 48503
Commercial Improved
Zoning District:
Lot Size:
Front: 0 Depth: 0


Legal Description

Sale Information

Ward/Precinct Information


Current Year (2010)
Previous Year (2009)

State Equalized Value
208800 217500
Taxable Value
208800 217500
0 0


2010 Taxes

Summer Taxes
Winter Taxes

Original Tax
$11,539.94 Not Available
Water Lien
Paid To Date
Balance Due
Post Sun Aug 22, 2010 3:19 pm 
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El Supremo

Neeley and other previous council members once tried to set a limit on the amount of compensation a contract employee could receive.

They obviosly failed. Eason's friend Jackie Foster received $80 per hour for 125 hours to relocate the six Greenvie manor tenanrs. What was her skill set to command that level of compensation?
Post Sat Nov 06, 2010 11:16 am 
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El Supremo

Greenview Manor has been heavily vandalized and the abandoned and blighted structures are a stark reminder that a City should not be running a business. The restrictions placed on ownership of this facility by HUD could only be accomplished by a well run Housing Commission, something Flint has been lacking for many years. On May 21, 2008, the council agenda (080553) the U.S. Department of HUD sent council the City of Flint contracts of sale and deed. Because the deed constrictions had not been met the alternative $384,500 price could be applied.

There is the argument that council in refusing to allow the re-allocatiion of grant funds cost the city a significant loss in HUD funds for 2005..

The property had been sold to Mission of Peace for $200,000 in 2005 under Mayor Don Williamson. At one time a police mini-station was n the Stevenson Street building. $700,000 was needed to convert some of the 1 bedroom apartments into 2 bedroom

In 2010 the $910,000 that had been slated for Greenview Manor was shifted to Smith Village.
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