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untanglingwebs
El Supremo

TALKING POINTS MEMO




Bill O'Reilly Told Roger Ailes Biographer To 'Drop Dead' Last Night

Tom Kludt – April 17, 2014, 4:16 PM EDT


Gabriel Sherman got an icy reception Wednesday night from the biggest personality on Fox News, confirmation that he's still persona non grata at the cable news channel following the publication of his devastating biography on Roger Ailes.


In a blog post Thursday for New York Magazine, Sherman recalled his experience at The Hollywood Reporter's soiree honoring some of New York's top media luminaries, including Ailes and Fox hosts Megyn Kelly, Sean Hannity and Bill O'Reilly.

Sherman's interaction with O'Reilly was brief but tense.


Ailes and Hannity were no-shows, so I decided to try O’Reilly first. I caught up with him near the doorway to the Grill Room. I asked if he had read the book and what he thought. When he registered who I was, his eyes bulged out of their sockets.

"Drop dead, man!” he screamed.
"Really?" I said, taken aback.

My response triggered another eruption. He lunged forward at me. He stood there, all six foot five of him, staring me down. I thought he might take a swing at me. His producer Jesse Watters stood nearby, smiling. Before I could say anything more, O'Reilly spun around and stalked off with Watters in tow.


Sherman reported that Kelly was friendlier but still kept it terse. She told him she couldn't be seen talking to him before professing her admiration for Ailes.

"Roger Ailes is a great man," Kelly told Sherman before he parted ways.

Sherman was unable to land an interview with Ailes for his 2013 biography on the Fox News chairman, "The Loudest Voice In The Room." The author told TPM in an interview last year that his efforts to talk to talk to Ailes were a "battle for control."

"And throughout the process, Ailes tried to put conditions on who I could and couldn’t talk to," Sherman said. "As a reporter, my responsibility is to my readers and to be as fair and accurate as possible."

Sherman did, however, have a pair of interactions with Ailes while researching the book, including one combative exchange at The Hollywood Reporter's cocktail party in 2012.

Ailes repeatedly called Sherman a "harasser" and claimed that he's helped protect Sherman's First Amendment rights.

As for Kelly, she's expressed affection for Ailes before and the feelings are clearly mutual. Ailes moved Kelly up to primetime last year and rushed to her defense when she draw mockery for saying that Santa is white.
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F L I N T O I D

That shows that even a stopped clock is right evry so often.
Post Fri Apr 25, 2014 7:23 am 
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Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D), who of course represents Nevada, said earlier this week, “We can’t have an American people that violate the law and then just walk away from it. So it’s not over.”

Coming from a liberal whackjob like Reid and spewed by maddow is hilarious. Never met an illegal they didn't like. Laughing

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UPDATE: Bundy Thugs "Poured Lighter Fluid Around Media ...


www.dailykos.com/story/2014/05/02/1296373/-Bundy-Thugs-Poured...

May 02, 2014 · When a bunch of American-hating thugs decided to help Cliven Bundy violently violate a Federal Court order they engaged in terrorist threats and terrorist ...
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untanglingwebs
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UPDATE: Bundy Thugs "Poured Lighter Fluid Around Media ...



When a bunch of American-hating thugs decided to help Cliven Bundy violently violate a Federal Court order they engaged in terrorist threats and terrorist activities against: BLM, Nevada Metro Police, Federal employees, National Park Rangers, Nevada State Police, News crews and Hotel clerks.

Within the past few days, local 8 News NOW received Police Reports and other information that show Bundy's Anti-American, Anti-Government thugs:

- "poured lighter fluid around" news trucks,
- Issued "bomb threats" against Hotels where Federal employees were lodging,
- told hotel staff they would be "dragged out in the parking lot and shot"
- Bundy thugs asked Metro Police Sgt Jenkins if "he was ready to die"


SHERIFF LOMARDO: "We were outgunned, outmanned and there would not have been a good result from it."
As is the case with many terrorist organizations who hold people hostage at gun point, terrorist leader Cliven Bundy issued "demands" to the United States government in exchange for releasing law enforcement from gun point and threats.
Cliven Bundy gave the US Government one hour to meet his demands and if the Government did not meet his demands his thugs would continue to terrorize law enforcement, federal employees, News crews and hotel staff.

In the video above, Bundy underscores that he is a lying, psychotic, thieving sociopath. Using a sickening, demented, terrorist method, Bundy intimidated Sheriff Lomardo into standing on stage with Bundy as Bundy gave his demands:


BUNDY: ...disarm the Park service -- and all Federal Parks the US Government claims they have jurisdiction over. Take your county bulldozers and tear down the entrance places -- the -- where they ticket us and where they - ah - entrance and make us citizens pay their fees. You get the county equipment down there and tear those things down this morning. You disarm those Park service people. You take a pick-up [truck] and I want those arms. [Facing the crowd of thugs] WE want those arms picked up don't we? Call Riley Disposal and go up here ta this compound [pointing at Bundy's compound] and we want all of those arms put in that compound taday! We want those arms delivered right here under these flags in one hour! And media -- are you here media? I want you to go to everyplace that they gotta central park service - ah - station and you watch those county machines tear down those -- those place taday in the next hour. And you [media] report back to these people -- we the people in one hour. If it's not -- if there's not done then we'll decide what we're gonna do from that -- this point on.
(emphasis in bold by me)
"I want those arms" -- yeah, I'll bet you do you crazy MF. Seriously, no surprise that psychopath, welfare-king, Cliven Bundy actually demanded the US Government give him and his loathsome thugs Government issued firearms -- after all, he's been mooching off the government for over 20 years now.
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Within the last few days, Local 8 News NOW interviewed the law enforcement who were on the scene. Sheriff Lombardo described his thoughts as Bundy issued his terrorist demands:

LOMBARDO: "I mean, the hair was up on the back of my neck. There was the so-called militia surrounding the stage. There was a lot of firepower out there and it made me nervous. anything could happen,"
Lombardo went on to say
LOMBARDO: "Mr. Bundy, in my personal opinion, incited the crowd,"

Journalists Were Threatened:
8 News NOW reports their reporters were physically threatened

They were equally hostile to journalists covering the story. Pistol-packing militia men have blocked 8 News NOW's access to public roads. Some poured lighter fluid around our news vehicle while others got physical.
Law Enforcement Threatened:
In an interview with 8 News NOW Sgt. Jenkins said a Bundy thug asked him if "he was ready to die."

JENKINS: "Some of them, there's no doubt from talking to me, want it, to get a chance that day to fire upon a police officer or authority period. I don't think it mattered if it was BLM or us."
Jenkins went on to describe that he could not get the death threat off of his mind and said:
JENKINS: "You are standing there going, 'I just hope it doesn't hurt when it comes. That it's quick,' and it was real for us. It was real."
REPORTER: You thought you might die?
JENKINS: Yeah."
BLM and law enforcement's objective turned from enforcing and carrying out a Federal Court order (impound and remove Bundy's cows from Public Land) to defusing terrorist threats from Bundy's thugs.
Sheriff Joe Lombardo told 8 News NOW the Bundy thugs had law enforcement outgunned:

Hotel Bomb Threats & Death Threats to Hotel Employees:
Within the past few days, Channel 8 News obtained Police Reports that show:

Holiday Inn Express received at least nine threatening phone calls in April, after they allowed BLM rangers to stay in the hotel.
Workers were told to kick out the BLM or they "would not be standing in the morning."
8 News also reports:
One Mesquite hotel worker, who didn't want to go on camera, said he was told by an anonymous militia member that he would be "dragged out in the parking lot and shot".
When BLM and law enforcement left Bundy and his fellow domestic terrorists without arresting anyone I thought it was a mistake. Now, however, I think law enforcement did the right thing. They diffused the insane, hostile situation and are currently compiling evidence to issue arrests. Better still, the infighting among the Bundy thugs is so intense they are actually pulling guns on each other.

LOMBARDO: "Sometimes in public safety, it is hard to back down. We are not trained to operate that way, but they [law enforcement] took the better route, and it was the right way to go. It's all about lives. I mean, what is the better route to go? To be right or to be effective? "
After BLM and law enforcement left, Bundy and his domestic terrorist thug brethren turned their hate and paranoia on each other. They have been itching for a 'civil war' but I don't think they thought their 'civil war' would be against each other.
Meanwhile, if Bundy's thugs don't kill each other first, Sheriff Lombardo confirmed to Channel 8 that no matter how long it takes, Bundy and his thugs will be dealt with.

UPDATE:


Fox News 5 is reporting that Bundy's armed thugs surrounded the City Council room and stood watch over a "standing-room only City council meeting" yesterday. Why did Bundy's thugs attend the City Council meeting? Were they there to intimidate?
Fox News is also is claiming that the "attendees gathered for the town hall had nothing but praise for" Bundy's thugs -- but I'm not sure they're correct as one woman sounds to be saying just the opposite.

"I called Metro, and their exact words to me were, ‘It's the BLM and Cliven Bundy's problem,' - and I should take it up with one of those two. There are my children and my community, and if Metro doesn't have the guts to come out and protect us – what are you here for? What are we paying you guys for?" another attendee said.
And I'm not sure if this is "praise" either?
COUNCIL MEMBER "I'm really disappointed in our sheriff for not being out here to protect the citizens who are out here."
I have emailed the Fox News reporter, Craig Huber and asked if Hotel employees who had received death threats or employees who worked for Hotels that had received "bomb threats" were present. Huber has not replied yet but if he does I will share his answer.
Fox Link: http://www.fox5vegas.com/...

(H/T to Homers24 for Bundy thug's threats to "drag out [hotel staff] in the parking lot and shot"
and H/T to all Kossacks who explained to me that Bundy's dudes are not real militia but are demented thugs.)
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Originally posted to TeamSarah4Choice on Fri May 02, 2014 at 09:40 AM PDT.

Also republished by Shut Down the NRA and Repeal or Amend the Second Amendment (RASA).
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Grist –
30 Apr 2014 1:57 PM

From Bundy to Keystone XL: Where’s the property rights outrage here?

By Kate Sheppard
Farmer Randy Thompson sued Nebraska over TransCanada’s use of eminent domain on his property.
Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy has become something of a folk hero among the anti-government, pro-property rights crowd, thanks to his recent standoff with the federal Bureau of Land Management. Some landowners in the path of the proposed Keystone XL pipeline want to know where the support for them has been, since their private property will actually be taken away without their approval.

Bundy and his supporters don’t recognize federal ownership of the land where his cattle have been grazing illegally for more than two decades. He refuses to pay grazing fees, arguing that he has “ancestral rights” to the land — an argument that a federal court has rejected, and which may not be historically accurate. The issue came to a head earlier this month after BLM officials seized hundreds of Bundy’s cattle, and armed right-wing and anti-government groups flocked to the desert for a standoff. BLM returned the cattle shortly thereafter, citing concerns about the safety of its employees and the public.

Federal control of land has also flared lately in Texas, where state Attorney General Greg Abbott recently accused BLM of “hijacking private property rights” in updating management plans for land bordering Oklahoma.

But many of the pundits and talking heads who rallied behind Bundy (at least before his racist outburst) are also advocating the Keystone XL pipeline – despite the ranchers and farmers up in arms about pipeline owner TransCanada Corp. trying to force its way onto their land.

That includes third-generation Texas farmer Julia Trigg Crawford, who has been fighting for years to prevent TransCanada from running the southern portion of the Keystone XL pipeline through her property. Crawford’s 600-acre farm is in Direct, Texas, where she raises soybeans, wheat, corn, and cattle. She turned down TransCanada’s original offer for her land. The company took her to court to claim eminent domain to take it anyway.

The 485-mile-long southern portion of the pipeline is already in the ground and carrying oil, but Crawford is still fighting.

“They didn’t have a right to take my land against my will,” Crawford told The Huffington Post this week. She had just returned to Texas from a Keystone XL protest in Washington, where she joined other ranchers and tribal groups.

Crawford said she’s worried about the pipeline’s effect on cultural and environmental aspects of the land. But mostly she said she’s mad that TransCanada could essentially take her land without her permission. She is trying to get the Texas Supreme Court to hear her case, arguing that the company should not have had the ability to claim eminent domain in the first place.

“A foreign corporation building a for-profit pipeline doesn’t meet the standards for eminent domain,” Crawford said. The state Supreme Court turned down her first appeal, but she’s trying again.

In South Dakota, rancher John Harter has been fighting TransCanada’s attempt to run the northern leg of the pipeline through his property, near Colome. Harter was in court on Monday, where he said TransCanada was trying to force him to sign a settlement agreement.

That land, Harter said, has been in his family since 1939 — ranched first by his grandfather, then by his father, and, since the early ’90s, by him. He said he was reluctant to agree to pipeline from the beginning, but knew TransCanada would probably force it on him. He verbally agreed to a route that was amenable. But then, he said, the company changed the proposed route without consulting him.

“You never really had an option of saying no,” Harter told The Huffington Post. “I did not want it on my property. But you find out, if you say no at all, then they start threatening that if you don’t do this, we’ll use eminent domain. They were doing that rom the start. I heard that right away from the people. They said if you don’t sign the way they want, they’ll take it from you.

“My greatest concern is contamination of the water and land,” said Harter. “This thing is so high-risk.”

His neighbors, he said, have agreed to let the pipeline come through. “They’re living in the moment, taking the money and not worrying about it, because we won’t be around,” said Harter. “I guess for some reason I can’t do that.”

Eminent domain concerns are the main reason that, on April 18, the Obama administration delayed a final decision on the northern pipeline route. In February, a Nebraska state court declared the proposed pipeline route through the state invalid, throwing out a law that would have allowed TransCanada to declare eminent domain. Nebraska is appealing the decision to the state Supreme Court. In the meantime, with no legally sanctioned route through the state, the Obama administration said it cannot make a final decision on the pipeline.

Jane Kleeb, director of anti-pipeline group Bold Nebraska, said that it’s hypocritical that right-wing groups have jumped to Bundy’s defense while advocating for the pipeline. “These farmers and ranchers are facing a real property rights issues, versus Bundy who just didn’t pay” fees, said Kleeb. “If this was a green energy project, or wind project, Republicans would have been outraged from the beginning.”

While TransCanada has not used eminent domain in Nebraska, she said the threat of it forced many landowners to agree to settlements. “Farmers and ranchers were terrified,” Kleeb said.

In an email to The Huffington Post, TransCanada spokesperson Davis Sheremata defended the company’s approach. “The eminent domain process is one that we do not like to use, but sometimes have to when we cannot reach an agreement about compensation,” he wrote. He also said that the company has not used eminent domain in Harter’s case — the company is only trying to get him to sign an agreement previously reached with him.

“It is really unfortunate that some of these activists are trying to make this an ‘us versus them’ debate when 100 percent of the landowners in South Dakota and Montana have already negotiated generous agreements with TransCanada to access their property for Keystone XL. And in Nebraska, where the pipeline route recently changed, already 79 percent of landowners have agreed to terms.” (It seems that Harter’s opposition would put TransCanada under “100 percent” in South Dakota.)

“We recognize that while there may be some vocal opponents to Keystone XL, they do not represent the majority of landowners along the approved route, or Nebraskans for that matter,” Sheremata continued. “While we recognize that not everyone will support this pipeline, our land team works very hard to build good relationships with landowners and that is what they are doing in Nebraska every day.”

Pipeline opponents said property concerns should be getting more attention.

“The folks who have been leading the fights in the states is farmers and ranchers, and in the past few years, tribal leaders,” Kleeb said. “You’re talking about setting a precedent that a foreign corporation can use eminent domain against an American landowner for a private project.”

This story was produced by The Huffington Post as part of the Climate Desk collaboration.

Kate Sheppard was previously Grist's political reporter. She now covers energy and the environment for The Huffington Post. Follow her on
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